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If you hang around long enough, you will sooner or later be told about market makers knowing where your stop loss is and manipulating prices against you. The story has been rehashed by many gurus over the last 20 years, and it is based on the real effect which occurs because of the clustering of stop orders in the market.
I personally had a chance to speak to one trader who had this very attitude towards the markets.
According to him, "market makers" (MMs) and "high frequency trading" (HFT) firms are always engaged in market manipulation campaigns. In particular, they allegedly "put orders above a price level then get rid of the orders instantly because they know where the stops are, or rapidly buy/sell making volume spikes happen".

This view frames the market as almost like a predatory game of four dimensional deception where institutions happen to be actively risk billions in capital just to trigger stop losses on retail accounts, which simply does not make sense if one understands real market microstructure.
Conflating illegal manipulation (which firms actually get fined for) with standard liquidity provision completely blinds you to the actual mechanics of how market actually move over time, but ONLY IF YOU ACCEPT THE FALSE NARRATIVES.
**Before we move forward this is important to state:**
HFT is a technology
MM is an activity
We are discussing the common HFT MM.
So today (around 20-24h after this conversation) I am breaking down what really causes a stop run for all to see, I will address the core misconceptions, and look at alternative approaches to improve your execution and stop placement.
**The trading industry is plagued by a fundamental misunderstanding of causation and correlation.**
To understand why stop runs happen, we have compare what is said with actual market microstructure.
# Common claims vs Reality.
***Stop hunting narrative***
MMs will push price 10+ handles to hit market stop clusters and absorb the inventory and directional risk. All that risk (which can be faded by institutions for negative P&L) just to fill a couple hundred/thousand contracts. Finished.

***Front running***
Illegally trading ahead of retail orders (for example, the idea that MMs informed about retail market orders before the trades hit the exchange e.g., via leaks).
**Closest thing to these being real things:**
order anticipation where MMs use predictive models to forecast where liquidity can be provided safely and when to pullback to avoid losses from directional risk.
***Layering narrative***
The act of placing and pulling fake orders to manipulate prices
**What this is confused with**
Adverse selection protection - the act of the MMs pulling their bid/ask quotes / limit orders to avoid directional risk from holding positions that aren't favourable to hold e.g., an informed institutional participant could try to buy a large amount of an asset with market orders.
If an MM can detect or predict this they tend to do one of two:
The MM will pull their ask quotes/sell limit orders, cancel their sell limit orders and move it further up the market depth increasing the spread or increasing market impact, these adjustments increase the cost of buying in large quantities immediately which compensates for the potential losses a market maker would incur from the directional risk of providing exposure to opposite side.
***Volume Spikes***
Supposedly manufactured by MMs to manipulate other participants.
**What's actually happening here:**
A stop cascade which is the natural result of market orders hitting a thin limit order book or a historically low volume density area.
https://preview.redd.it/qof2kl8pdmlh1.png?width=1874&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3c9ff179cee74326f4a3271ef9a8d6f351269af
# What Actually Causes a Stop Cascade
If market makers are not pushing the price to take your stops, why do these aggressive spikes happen exactly where everyone places their stop losses?
The answer lies in volume density and the natural behaviour of directional traders.

**The Square Root Law of Price Impact**
Traders tend to place their stop losses in highly predictable places, typically beyond recent swing highs or lows. In these areas, the historical volume density is exceptionally low.
When volume density is low, the price impact potential of an incoming order is elevated, when prices approach these extremes it does not take much volume to move the market significantly.
Where expected participation at a price region low it can influence a market maker's quoting behaviour to offer less to avoid absorbing adverse selection risk from large price moving orders flowing in at these same prices, this is why price acceleration can be seen at places where low volume nodes are left after the fact, later I will demonstrate show this happening with fixed range volume profile illustrations.
[A lower timeframe perspective](https://preview.redd.it/krifgpyidmlh1.png?width=2198&format=png&auto=webp&s=76efac7f9f470eb7ea3846b62354bfc902a860c0)
**Directional market participants are the ones who indirectly induce the runs in the first place. Aggressive market orders from buy-side participants move the price rapidly - market makers are not responsible for this.**
If the market is trading close to a known stop cluster, directional traders (buyers and sellers) will naturally push the price toward that level during standard price discovery. Once that level is breached, the cluster of stop losses (which convert to market orders) is triggered. Its standard trading that happens all day, people are pushing in market order buys and people are submitting market order sells and the price moves based on the liquidity offered at current levels, this is the continuous double auction that happens all day in modern electronic markets.
**When unexplained waves of aggressive market orders hits the exchange, market makers must respond.**
https://i.redd.it/fnbw84gedmlh1.gif
**"Do we absorb the pressure or retreat?"**
**Adverse selection occurs when one side of a trade has superior information to the other.**
***- Maureen O hara explains this best for those who want to study the basics.***
If an HFT algorithm detects a massive unexpected wave of directional market orders flowing in (like during a stop cascade), they immediately cancel their limit orders in response. A market maker does this to avoid taking on excessive inventory risk (the risk of holding a losing position) against a more informed trading participant (on the buy side).
When the MMs pull their liquidity, the order book thins out. If there is not enough supply or demand to fill these orders instantly, the price will move until a limit order will absorb it, this is why price moves at all.

Market Makers are not the ones submitting the aggressive market orders, the collective crowding of retail orders at a low volume density area combined with other buy-side participants (including directional traders) pushed you into it indirectly, just by the market drifting along from many trades being processed, this is what happens.
**The Front Running Fallacy (One of my favourites)**
Another claim often stated confidently: MMs are front-running your orders because they have fibre optic cable data streams linked directly to your broker which send your market order activity just before it gets sent to the exchange. (sarcasm). Crazy talk.
It is vital to separate illegal front-running from legal order anticipation (from predictive models)
Front-running (trading ahead of a known client orders for profit) is very illegal and in today's world mechanisms like the Consolidated Audit Trail (CAT) monitor every single order lifecycle including cancellations (this is an important detail for later, but stay with me ;) **DB**

Market making divisions do not mess around with blatant front running operations because regulatory fines are severe and are easily enforced because of CAT, these fines aren't a slap on the wrist and repeat offences result in trading bans.
**Liquidity anticipation is the game at play here.**
Since they can stream Level 2 and MBO (Market by Order) data from institutional trading platforms at speeds that no other person can, their algorithmic models can accurately predict where liquidity will likely congregate with a very high level of accuracy.
The market makers anticipate order flow and they put up a lot of resources into doing this to protect their profit & loss from being exposed to the wrong side of the price cascades, not to earn more P&L from dangerous liquidity hunting operations with minimal profits and fines.
Transparency can be achieved through platforms such as DataBento DB, the recorded institutional grade data if the stories told were really true, empirical proof would come and there would be a lot of scrutiny involved because it impacts the wallets of Billionaires (and they influence the rules).
**Alternative Approaches: How to Adapt**
***Here is how you adapt to the reality of liquidity provision.***
You need to widen your stops with intent and stop using the smallest one possible (in hindsight). When traders decide to place stop losses at low volume density areas for example, right at a structural extreme, they are become vulnerable to what I refer to as distributional decay (short-term shifts in quoting behaviour and order flow without signalling a real change in market direction). If you are a victim to "stop runs" you must systematically widen your stops and reduce your position size to compensate consistently, this also lowers your costs over time (spread relative to your stop size) this can reduce your cost's drag on return over time significantly.
This is important because 10% costs can pull your returns down by a lot more.
|Strategy|1:2 RRR 50% Winrate|Applied Approx 10% Costs|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Stop Size Avg (spread factored in)|20||
|Spread Size Avg|1.75||
|Slippage Size Avg|0.25||
|Slippage impact on losses|0.25||
|Average Return (Multiple of risk / Expected Value)|0.5R|0.3R|
No costs (100 trades)
50\*2 = 100
50\*-1 = 50
50 R
With costs (100 trades)
50\*2\*0.9 = 90
50\*-1\*1.0125 = -50.625
39.375 R
That's a reduction of over 20% over 100 trades, the smaller your average stop size, the worse it gets and the easier the reduction of returns become exponential.
**Remember to Deal Tactically with Limits**
Market orders demand immediate liquidity, meaning you pay the spread and suffer slippage, whenever possible aim to provide liquidity tactically instead of being a customer, make a market for someone else and get rewarded with lower transaction costs. Let the rushed customers sell into your efficient entry levels instead. At the end of the day, price is a negotiation and not all deals are fair.
**Trade uniquely and avoid the crowd**
Stop crowding at the exact same predictable low volume ares as everyone else.
https://preview.redd.it/qy8lnig4emlh1.png?width=2444&format=png&auto=webp&s=634f74eaa2e52d1f0e2c45b8efef5fa88867e045
If your strategy relies on placing stops at ridiculous places you will consistently become exit liquidity for larger market participants waiting with execution algorithm triggers below.
Imagine a stop at 10000 and price cascades at 9995 passive buying begins, selling activity compresses and the buyer starts an intermittent buying campaign, and sells at a higher price, this was at your expense.
https://preview.redd.it/yvo3rkg7emlh1.png?width=1974&format=png&auto=webp&s=ea94d5a01028d888568b73d02ac6ec9db8215831
**Check**
https://preview.redd.it/mz6831dcemlh1.png?width=1112&format=png&auto=webp&s=b79488c661ae625395779860561a9f863630086d

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Half Dollars
1806 AG Draped Bust Half Dollar (Pointed 6, Stem) [https://imgur.com/a/AizvVRa](https://imgur.com/a/AizvVRa) (295.00)
1952 NGC PF66 Franklin [https://imgur.com/a/ZLyKVx1](https://imgur.com/a/ZLyKVx1) (215.00)
Video 2: [https://imgur.com/a/n0okXY5](https://imgur.com/a/n0okXY5) 
Quarters
1806/5 AG Draped Bust Quarter (Clear Overdate! Scratched) [https://imgur.com/a/09NbASc](https://imgur.com/a/09NbASc) (355.00)
1821 G Large Type Capped Bust Quarter (Nice Coin!) [https://imgur.com/a/jNTA5Vd](https://imgur.com/a/jNTA5Vd) (175.00)
1958 D NGC MS67 CAC Washington Quarter [https://imgur.com/a/PlvmEp7](https://imgur.com/a/PlvmEp7) (235.00)
Dimes
1940 S NGC MS67+FB Mercury Dime (Mega Toner!!!) [https://imgur.com/a/qJ5K3DL](https://imgur.com/a/qJ5K3DL) (885.00)
Video 2: [https://imgur.com/a/URFe8j1](https://imgur.com/a/URFe8j1) 
Images: [https://imgur.com/a/AzOsLLN](https://imgur.com/a/AzOsLLN) 
1951 NGC PF68 Roosevelt Dime (Sweet Blue Toner!) [https://imgur.com/a/SR2Gx08](https://imgur.com/a/SR2Gx08) (125.00)
Video 2: [https://imgur.com/a/Q11jvaZ](https://imgur.com/a/Q11jvaZ) 
Images: [https://imgur.com/a/VXTKj01](https://imgur.com/a/VXTKj01) 
1962 NCC MS66FT Roosevelt Dime (Toner!) [https://imgur.com/a/BwQzxVb](https://imgur.com/a/BwQzxVb) (30.00)
1963 NGC PF69 Ultra Cameo Roosevelt Dime [https://imgur.com/a/AhLSQJO](https://imgur.com/a/AhLSQJO) (170.00)
Shipping for coins (non-coins vary) is 8 Dollars for 8 ounces total weight or less, 10 dollars for over 8 ounces; I am accepting Zelle (Preferred), PPFF (No notes pls), Cashpp, and Venmo FF (No notes pls). (USA only for these rates, special rates of other locations). SFRB is 12 Dollars to ship.
I will not risky ship
If a name to be used for the shipping label is not sent with your shipping address, I will use your username in its place
All Payments are nonrefundable.
SPOT is based off KITCO
DISCLAIMER: I ship securely with kraft bubbler mailers (if you would not like a kraft bubble mailer, I can use a SFRB if asked) via USPS Ground Advantage or Priority (Ground Advantage unless otherwise asked for Priority). I offer insurance at cost for all slabbed coins. All insurance is purchased via Pirateship. I also offer registered mail for all coins (raw and slabbed) and bullion. USPS Ground Advantage and Priority come with an inherent 100 dollars insurance (I can only guarantee this for slabbed coins). If the buyer does not choose to pay for either of these extra services, once the package is dropped off at the post office, the buyer takes full responsibility for it. 

800k ain't nothing to scoff at IM Broke ass O

And the O in Halo who is an O not a 0.

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📈 Building a Small, Serious Trading & Investing Circle — Become Better & More Profitable Together 🎯
I'm building a private circle of 10–20 serious traders/investors—not another noisy group of hype, random calls or passive members.
🎯 Goal: Combine experience + knowledge + research + data + strategies + resources + expertise + technology to help each other make better decisions, find opportunities and become more capable and consistently profitable.
👥 Looking for: Experienced, active traders/investors—manual, algo, intraday, swing, F&O, quant, AI/automation or investment-focused. Profitable or experienced through losses is fine.
Character matters: genuine, trustworthy, independent-thinking, communicative and willing to contribute.
🔬 How we'll work: Leverage what already exists instead of reinventing everything: Find → Refine → Test → Validate → Improve → Share
Strategies, edges, research, resources, tools, datasets, data, setups and opportunities.
Important ideas are challenged and tested rather than blindly followed.
🤝 What you contribute: Experience, research, resources, strategies, ideas, data, expertise, discoveries, testing, mistakes and lessons. Contribute—not just consume.
✅ What you gain: Collective research, useful resources, strategies/edges, stocks/F&O/investment ideas, market insights, testing/validation, quant/algo/AI knowledge, experienced feedback, planning, accountability and a trusted network.
👑 Community: I'll organize and lead it, set direction and coordinate initiatives. We maintain trust, confidentiality, respect, transparency, serious discussion and high signal-to-noise.
🏆 Vision: Learn → Research → Prepare → Challenge → Find → Test → Improve → Execute → Grow. Save time, reduce avoidable mistakes, identify better opportunities and continuously improve profitability across changing markets.
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🤝 The collective value should far outweigh the individual effort—your time and expertise compound through the research, experience, resources and testing of the entire circle.
📋 We can work together on pre-market preparation, watchlists, scenarios, trade plans, investment theses, risk management and post-market reviews.
💡 The objective isn't just exchanging information; it's turning collective information and expertise into better research, decisions, opportunities and execution.
📈 Potential opportunities across intraday, swing, F&O and investing—including stocks, setups, calls/signals and potential multibaggers.
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WCP, FRU, PEY all pay monthly dividends and have nice growth prospects in the Canadian O&G industry

The annual yield for O is 5.13% so a $9000 CAD investment should yield $462 CAD per year in dividends, paid monthly.

Firstly, It’s not a credit card. Secondly, ask them to send it to a P.O. Box.

Nach Indien? o.O Wer will denn freiwillig nach Idien auswandern?

The simplest thing to do with that amount of capital is buy a Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) like Realty Income Corp (O) or an ETF like SCHH or VNQ.

KV-Vorauszahlung, „damit später in der Rente nicht mehr voll belastet wird“
Oha, merke gerade wie real das inzwischen klingt. O.o

Om man skulle levt på gatan och badat i götaälven så hade man kunnat spara ännu mera.
Men jag tror dem helt enkelt räknar vad folk snittar in och sen snittar ut, och det är ca 30-40% av befolkningen som antingen hamnar på O eller minus.
Men ja, många lever dyrare än vad dem kan, te.x semester på krita och så vidare.

O say can you see by the dawn’s early light
Das spricht alles für 200$ $SPCX einkommend