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# November 11th - Hillary Clinton Event at Cantor Fitzgerald - from 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM 
# DOJ 11
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Lesley Groff<Lesley Groff>
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Nov 3, 2015 7:00 PM
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From: "Lutnick, Howard" Subject: November 11th - Hillary Clinton Event at Cantor Fitzgerald - from 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM
Date: November 3, 2015 at 5:58:41 PM EST
Cc: "Gilbert Matthew"
"Petrock, Christopher"
I would like to invite you to attend a very intimate fundraising event with Hillary Clinton from 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM at the Cantor Fitzgerald Offices on November 11th. Please R.S.V.P. (Contribution form is attached to this email.)
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Howard Lutnick<Howard Lutnick>
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Nov 3, 2015 10:58 PM
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I would like to invite you to attend a very intimate fundraising event with Hillary Clinton from 5:30 PM to 6:30 PM at the Cantor Fitzgerald Offices on November 11th. Please R.S.V.P. (Contribution form is attached to this email.)

[https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA02671545?view=inbox](https://jmail.world/thread/EFTA02671545?view=inbox)

Every V/MA thread is like this lol. People have no clue how they work.

Quick V to start the day mhm.

Credit cards USED to give rewards. Now we exchange a 3% up charge at every POS for the points and stuff. CC users likely come out behind these days if we did the tracking/math on it. It does create this kinda funny (not funny) system where retailers are like a middle man passing our 3% along to the cards creating tons of rent seeking opportunities along the way.
People are correct to be skeptical the EU can pull it off, but V and MA deserve some institutionalized competition. I’m honestly surprised this isn’t a bigger marketing thing for crypto.

If I were you I’d try V.I.P vaults. Will probably have coins but not sure about bullion bars.

I have conducted a comparative backtest for the two dominant players in the global payments sector: **Mastercard (MA)** and **Visa (V)**. While both stocks show a powerful statistical edge, one currently offers a superior historical return profile.
# Mastercard (MA)
Mastercard hits my high-conviction threshold remarkably early, showing a robust edge for both mid-term and long-term holders.
**Key Statistics:**
* **Signal:** Price close over MA20
* **Historical Win Rate (6 Months):** 85.29%
* **Average Return (6 Months):** \+16.04%
* **Backtest Period:** 2006 – 2026
**Analysis:** Mastercard’s performance following a move above the 20-day moving average is exceptionally consistent. It crosses the 70% win rate threshold at the **2-month mark** (73.26%) and peaks at an impressive **85.29% win rate** over 6 months.
For 1-year holders, the average return jumps to **+34.09%** with an **83.33% win rate**, making this a premier setup for growth-oriented trend followers.
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# Visa (V)
**Key Statistics:**
* **Signal:** Price close over MA20
* **Historical Win Rate (1 Year):** 82.35%
* **Average Return (1 Year):** \+19.88%
* **Backtest Period:** 2008 – 2026
**Analysis:** Visa provides excellent consistency, hitting a **70.00% win rate** at the 3-month mark. While its 6-month win rate of **81.25%** is good, its average return of **+10.19%** lags behind Mastercard’s during the same timeframe.
For long-term investors, the 1-year outlook remains strong at an **82.35% win rate** with an average return of **+19.88%**.
# The Verdict: Which has the better "Edge"?
While both companies are high-conviction setups, the historical data suggests **Mastercard (MA)** is the winner for those seeking higher returns without sacrificing much in terms of probability.
* **Win Rate:** Both are elite, but Mastercard leads slightly at the 6-month mark (85% vs 81%).
* **Profitability:** Mastercard significantly outperforms, delivering nearly **6 percentage units higher average returns** over 6 months and **14 percentage units higher** over a year compared to Visa.
* **Efficiency:** Mastercard develops its 70% edge one month faster (at 2 months) than Visa (at 3 months).
https://preview.redd.it/z4ephv4lluig1.png?width=768&format=png&auto=webp&s=548d691492bbd2dccf302ca6c937a2e31d10c72b
https://preview.redd.it/ivvid3bmluig1.png?width=763&format=png&auto=webp&s=a42f3916815c9cf7d7da88faa47cfecf4e48d155

🌽🤣🤣🤣 they waiting for V while a big dump is loading 😂😂😂

Crypto bros waiting on that V anydaday now 👌

V because I said so

Gonna be red at open because of the bad jobs report, then by close it’ll V and we’ll be GREEN as fuck.

When we have a green day we end at the highs of the day. When we have a red day we always have a V. Last week 3 drill days and each one had a V.

They dont work together. EU is pretty much a regulations generator no more no less. They wont be able to build something as big as MA and V.
I would believe it if China says they will do it. EU? Nah.

Down $42 today. Puts a 100% casino move. I get the feeling everyone’s going buy in and V this thing

45F601 will also get you a V nickel, Indian cent, and Buffalo nickel for $4.95. A half will be offered under spot but you will not be able to add it to the cart.
46L400 for a numismatic grab bag for $9.95
35K410 for a $29.95 morgan
39X600 for a free 2009 Lincoln cent set
That’s everything else I’ve found so far.

Surprised that V and MA only handle 2/3 of payments, not 90%?

Can't happen when it just forces the next V

Nothing ever happens. V and MA will be fine

US consumer defaults are increasing (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-consumer-delinquencies-jump-to-highest-in-almost-a-decade/ar-AA1W4vwC?ocid=finance-verthp-feeds).
I held V and MA forever, but glad I'm not exposed to them or the banks that finance consumer credit right now.

what are the odds we V end of month

As per previous comment.
Also ID&V services can be on-prem services, e.g. not sent externally to a sub processor, therefore making Revolut the controller and the processor.