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if US drug companies withdraw from entire countries the WTO allows for issuing compulsory licenses for the production of generics without authorization by IP holders. so its more like US companies would lose market share to generic manufacturers.

The irony is that anti global free trade is a liberal idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Seattle_WTO_protests

It is an unfortunate event that Americans still think that voting Trump into the white house is something positive.
He is reckless and he has signalled a change from abiding to the multi-lateral agreements.
By making unilateral agreements, he has signalled that it's all for yourself.
Such signalled to old rivals that it's time to remove the gloves.
Russian and Ukrainian tensions, though sparked by the West, as they kept luring Ukraine to join EU and to embrace NATO.
Indian & Pakistan, as Indian authorities shut off the water supply passing through to Pakistan, invoking the recent armed conflict.
It is key that wars must be stopped and prevented.
US will next try to lure an assault on Taiwan, by encouraging Taiwan, so that China do a full offensive when Taiwan declares independence.
But US has been losing all the wars it engaged in, since Korean War...
Because US are not stayers, Korean War, Vietnam War, Iraq Occupation, Afghanistan Occupation, it illustrated that no matter how devastating your win-rate / kill-rate is, all that matters is are you a stayer?
Taiwan, the Republic of China, won't be floating off the coast of China, People's Republic of China, any time soon.
If US flirts with the thought of fighting through Taiwan with China, this is WW3 and also the end of modern history as we know it, cause both sides have nukes.
This is also the reason why any nuke nations in conflict must directly stand down and obey the multi-lateral framework that we had, using the UN convention, using the agreements we penned at multi-lateral agreements penned at WTO, etc.
I wish Americans are more well-read than just sports and tabloids...

A few scratching on a napkin is not a trade deal. They are so granular and specific as to be wildly boring. An excerpt from the USMCA.
“Egg and Egg Products: 1.67 million increasing to ten million dozen eggs and egg-equivalent products in year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 10 years. Canada has agreed to allow 30 percent of import licenses for shell egg imports to be granted to new entrants as well. As with chicken, the United States will still be eligible to export up to 21.37 million dozen egg and egg-equivalent products under Canada’s WTO tariff rate quota regime.”
That stuff takes time.
The USMCA took two years. The TPP took seven.

Yes, but it is because of:
1. The alliance between insurance and pharma companies in the US in particular.
2. Other countries can't afford those prices, so they started producing generics, pharma freaked out, went to the US and the WTO (there are a few famous cases from the 90's and 00's maybe before and after). Realized they couldn't win, so they had to lower prices for a bunch of stuff to be able to compete.
I don't think anyone here is against lowering prices, the problem is that these are the result of unbridled capitalism that the US has championed and made other countries play into for decades. It seems unrealistic that the US will just force pharama to lower prices, make them rise prices in other countries, and somehow, it's gonna work out. It's just not.
What's just mind blowing, is that this administration shouts communism every time they don't like something, and yet, price control is completely against capitalism, and market freedom. So, ok, they are for market manipulation by the government, but that somehow is not communism? And this is different from regulations or antitrust laws, or trying to make things fair, this is just someone thinking that saying: do this, to a company with an executive order that can be challenged in court is gonna do anything.

I say we screw China send the Chinese citizens back to the villages to eat fish, rice and dirt wasn't it Bill Clinton and the Democrats, who invited them to the WTO and screw us ever since? The Chinese have tried to poison us and kill us with their fentanyl with a bamboo flooring with the drywall and baby formula and other stuff I forgotten about that they sent over here.

Not really WTO goal is 90 resolution. Which was being blatantly ignored. Which is why in Trump's first term he chose block WTO judges to prep renegotiation of deals. Funny thing is - Biden didn't make any efforts to change it - he also wanted new deals just didn't act. Trump is an ass but he's making a move that bush,Obama,and Biden wanted (Clinton cussed it). I hate trump, but timeline is off there.

Violating WTO rules. Hacking into private US networks. Infiltrating US universities and companies to steal IP.
The list goes on... educate yourself.

Yes of course we all know this. It's about China's IP theft, economic espionage, WTO violations, currency devaluation program, and dumping of goods from government subsidized industries. Yes of course this is about much more than just trade.

China has purposely taken control of the supply of a lot of vital portions of our society. The easiest one being rare earth minerals mainly magnets that go in every electric motor.
This isn’t just a numbers game. It’s the fact that China is still counted as a 3rd world country by the WTO, they steal our intellectual property and we can’t litigate. Then they require our companies that do operate in China to have a Chinese partner that owns 51% of the company once they reach a certain size. And finally their tariffs are way out of proportion.
You can hate trump, hate how he is doing things, but you can’t ignore the fact China is not this backwoods 3rd world country just starting to grow: they are an economic powerhouse and need to play fair.

if US drug companies withdraw from entire countries the WTO allows for issuing compulsory licenses for the production of generics without authorization by IP holders. so its more like US companies would lose market share to generic manufacturers.

The irony is that anti global free trade is a liberal idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Seattle_WTO_protests

It is an unfortunate event that Americans still think that voting Trump into the white house is something positive.
He is reckless and he has signalled a change from abiding to the multi-lateral agreements.
By making unilateral agreements, he has signalled that it's all for yourself.
Such signalled to old rivals that it's time to remove the gloves.
Russian and Ukrainian tensions, though sparked by the West, as they kept luring Ukraine to join EU and to embrace NATO.
Indian & Pakistan, as Indian authorities shut off the water supply passing through to Pakistan, invoking the recent armed conflict.
It is key that wars must be stopped and prevented.
US will next try to lure an assault on Taiwan, by encouraging Taiwan, so that China do a full offensive when Taiwan declares independence.
But US has been losing all the wars it engaged in, since Korean War...
Because US are not stayers, Korean War, Vietnam War, Iraq Occupation, Afghanistan Occupation, it illustrated that no matter how devastating your win-rate / kill-rate is, all that matters is are you a stayer?
Taiwan, the Republic of China, won't be floating off the coast of China, People's Republic of China, any time soon.
If US flirts with the thought of fighting through Taiwan with China, this is WW3 and also the end of modern history as we know it, cause both sides have nukes.
This is also the reason why any nuke nations in conflict must directly stand down and obey the multi-lateral framework that we had, using the UN convention, using the agreements we penned at multi-lateral agreements penned at WTO, etc.
I wish Americans are more well-read than just sports and tabloids...

A few scratching on a napkin is not a trade deal. They are so granular and specific as to be wildly boring. An excerpt from the USMCA.
“Egg and Egg Products: 1.67 million increasing to ten million dozen eggs and egg-equivalent products in year six of the agreement, growing one percent for an additional 10 years. Canada has agreed to allow 30 percent of import licenses for shell egg imports to be granted to new entrants as well. As with chicken, the United States will still be eligible to export up to 21.37 million dozen egg and egg-equivalent products under Canada’s WTO tariff rate quota regime.”
That stuff takes time.
The USMCA took two years. The TPP took seven.

Yes, but it is because of:
1. The alliance between insurance and pharma companies in the US in particular.
2. Other countries can't afford those prices, so they started producing generics, pharma freaked out, went to the US and the WTO (there are a few famous cases from the 90's and 00's maybe before and after). Realized they couldn't win, so they had to lower prices for a bunch of stuff to be able to compete.
I don't think anyone here is against lowering prices, the problem is that these are the result of unbridled capitalism that the US has championed and made other countries play into for decades. It seems unrealistic that the US will just force pharama to lower prices, make them rise prices in other countries, and somehow, it's gonna work out. It's just not.
What's just mind blowing, is that this administration shouts communism every time they don't like something, and yet, price control is completely against capitalism, and market freedom. So, ok, they are for market manipulation by the government, but that somehow is not communism? And this is different from regulations or antitrust laws, or trying to make things fair, this is just someone thinking that saying: do this, to a company with an executive order that can be challenged in court is gonna do anything.

I say we screw China send the Chinese citizens back to the villages to eat fish, rice and dirt wasn't it Bill Clinton and the Democrats, who invited them to the WTO and screw us ever since? The Chinese have tried to poison us and kill us with their fentanyl with a bamboo flooring with the drywall and baby formula and other stuff I forgotten about that they sent over here.

Not really WTO goal is 90 resolution. Which was being blatantly ignored. Which is why in Trump's first term he chose block WTO judges to prep renegotiation of deals. Funny thing is - Biden didn't make any efforts to change it - he also wanted new deals just didn't act. Trump is an ass but he's making a move that bush,Obama,and Biden wanted (Clinton cussed it). I hate trump, but timeline is off there.

Violating WTO rules. Hacking into private US networks. Infiltrating US universities and companies to steal IP.
The list goes on... educate yourself.

Yes of course we all know this. It's about China's IP theft, economic espionage, WTO violations, currency devaluation program, and dumping of goods from government subsidized industries. Yes of course this is about much more than just trade.

China has purposely taken control of the supply of a lot of vital portions of our society. The easiest one being rare earth minerals mainly magnets that go in every electric motor.
This isn’t just a numbers game. It’s the fact that China is still counted as a 3rd world country by the WTO, they steal our intellectual property and we can’t litigate. Then they require our companies that do operate in China to have a Chinese partner that owns 51% of the company once they reach a certain size. And finally their tariffs are way out of proportion.
You can hate trump, hate how he is doing things, but you can’t ignore the fact China is not this backwoods 3rd world country just starting to grow: they are an economic powerhouse and need to play fair.