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We have SEPA transfers in Europe which is free between European countries. There's also free transfers between UK banks and Canadians have e-transfer which is also free. Speaking from my own experience as I've used all of the above, you already mentioned monero but BCH is also cheap I think $0.25 per transaction.

Just a nice to have, simple explanation of BTC/BCH fork

>Nearly five years after ZHONG’s fraud, in August 2017, solely by virtue of ZHONG’s possession of the 50,000 Bitcoin that he unlawfully obtained from Silk Road, ZHONG received a matching amount of a related cryptocurrency — 50,000 Bitcoin Cash (“BCH Crime Proceeds”) — on top of the 50,000 Bitcoin. In August 2017, in a hard fork coin split, Bitcoin split into two cryptocurrencies, traditional Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash (“BCH”). When this split occurred, any Bitcoin address that had a Bitcoin balance (as ZHONG’s addresses did) now had the exact same balance on both the Bitcoin blockchain and on the Bitcoin Cash blockchain. As of August 2017, ZHONG thus possessed 50,000 BCH in addition to the 50,000 Bitcoin that ZHONG unlawfully obtained from Silk Road. ZHONG thereafter exchanged through an overseas cryptocurrency exchange all of the BCH Crime Proceeds for additional Bitcoin, amounting to approximately 3,500 Bitcoin of additional crime proceeds.
From the DOJ case. Had he not done the swap of BCH to BTC and reoffended five years after the original crime he would have kept 50,000 BTC due to the statue of limitations (10 years after the crime was committed). This guy takes the take for illegal Bitcoin pizza guy

Do you think that BCH supporters see inflation as more of an enemy than is BTC?
That is, could the BCH community and the BTC community work together to wake up the pre-coiners to the evils of inflation?

I agree. That's why I hold both BCH and XMR.

When someone asked him what brought him to Monero from Bitcoin Csh this was his answer:

> pokkst:
I have spent this year learning more about it and how it works at low level, in its current form.
> RandomX and how, so far, it's actually "ASIC resistant", which makes mining more practical for the average user, and more anonymous. Your heat signature blends in more with everything else (ASICs draw a lot of power and produce a lot of heat), and you can buy a CPU with cash at any computer shop (unless the shop is gey).
> Stealth addresses, which exist on BCH via BIP47/RPAs (but it's not enforced for privacy), conceal receiver.
>Zero-knowledge proofs, currently Monero's Bulletproofs and their versions for concealing amounts but still keeping it verifiable.
>Ring signatures to obfuscate (not conceal, unfortunately) sender, and how outputs are used as decoys (https://github.com/pokkst/monero-decoy-scanner).
>And other things like Dandelion++ to hide what the true broadcast IP was. It's _infinite_ supply, but constant emission, still makes it arguably deflationary (as the inflation rate trends towards zero, but does not touch it, but coins being burned or lost can have an effect on that, but it's impossible to get exact data on that).
>All of these add up to make it pretty security/privacy hardened and actually untraceable, and more resistant to government surveillance.
>Then the CoinFlex/SmartBCH collapse, combined with, in my opinion, growing toxicity/maximalism within the BCH community, I was exhausted, so I started winding down Pokket and other BCH shit and moved to XMR.

There are some cases BCH is better, like 0-conf transfers and better scalability.

> BCH is good if you wanna put your money in useless s***coin and lose your money
BCH is the best if you want not to "put" your money into some bullshit trading account, but USE your money as money, every day to do stuff.
There isn't a better coin for this.

> Are you actually stating that if someone were to hard fork BCH tomorrow, then their brand new coin (which to be super clear, provably doesn't even exist right now today) in fact existed in 2009? Hard fork = time travel? Madness!
No, hard-fork = Branching.
All the codebase and all the blocks go back to the root. "Bitcoin" (and all of its variants) are a tree and each one is "Bitcoin" (leaf).
Each hard-fork does not create a new coin, it just creates a new branch.

Yes! He also created the first BCH wallet, Electron Cash, at zero hour right at the fork in 2017 when no one had ever dealt with a fork before. things were a little hairy since no one was quite sure what would happen. JF waded in up to his neck.

This is not true! Bitcoin is far better than BCH because Bitcoin is faster and with bitcoin lightning ⚡️ it’s even super fast.

For BCH to scale there is already a four level structure in use, with all of these important and essential for a good scalable user experience
* Hash Farms
* Generating Nodes, e.g. mining pools
* Economic Nodes, e.g. SPV nodes
* User Nodes, e.g. SPV clients.

All this has any point seeing as the ratio to btc shows clearly that BCH is seen as dogshit. Now like last 5 years, you gonna make the case that it will pay to accumulate low?

It’s not a war my friend. That’s a personal anecdote of which there are many from every perspective throughout the last 10 years in crypto. Every protocol should do the best it can within the context of its use-cases, and the protocols that succeed are the ones that eyes forward, not backwards to a past that is no longer relevant to the aims of the day. BCH is a good protocol that needs to look towards the next decade, and not get stuck in the arguments of the previous one

XMR is more than an order of magnitude less efficient per transaction than BCH. More important, XMR can not preserve its privacy properties with scaling, since its privacy goal requires users to scan the entire blockchain for relevant transactions.
Bitcoin has had two inflation bugs in the past. The first was in bitcoin before the BTC BCH split and was caused by an integer arithmetic overflow bug. Because bitcoin was not a privacy coin this was quickly discovered and fixed within hours. Such bugs would be far more likely with complex cryptographically encoded values and would have probably gone undetected had bitcoin used “confidential transactions” which Monero picked up, incidently from work originally done by bitcoiners.
At present BCH and XMR are solving two different problems, scalability and privacy. The present state of the art does not allow for both goals to be met simultaneously. Thus it is not possible to say that one of these coins is better than the other. Both have value.

Why does it concern you?
On chain payments aren't going anywhere. If BCH fades to nothing, its because people don't want to use it.

I've recently become interested in BCH. I like the focus on a spendable crypto. I'm not sure what the challenge is, though. Are you comparing transfer speeds or attempting to find somewhere to spend the crypto?

Dec 18. BCH $80-1600 (20x). Btc $3000-67k (22x).
Wrong again. It's so easy to disprove you. You just can't accept reality.

"The strongest native cryptocurrency used to obtain Vietnamese Dong remains BCH (Bitcoin Cash), which accounted for about 10% of the overall exchange volume."

Are you actually stating that if someone were to hard fork BCH tomorrow, then their brand new coin (which to be super clear, provably doesn't even exist right now today) in fact existed in 2009? Hard fork = time travel? Madness!
...Or, are you saying when you hard fork, you share the history? Which is completely different. And how it actually works.