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Over the past few months I went fairly deep into testing an Opening Range Breakout + Relative Volume strategy based on the paper *A Profitable Day Trading Strategy for the U.S. Equity Market*.
I originally expected this to end with a paper-trading/live system.
Instead, it turned into an interesting case study in how a strategy can look very strong in a conventional backtest and then collapse once you model how the trades would actually have to be executed.
I thought the results might be useful to others here, particularly anyone working on intraday strategies with tight stops.
# The basic strategy
The main 5-minute version was approximately:
* US equities
* opening price > $5
* previous 14-day average volume ≥ 1M shares
* ATR14 > $0.50
* first opening range = 09:30–09:35 ET
* RVOL = today's first-5-minute volume / average first-5-minute volume over the previous 14 sessions
* RVOL ≥ 1
* rank Top 20 by RVOL
* bullish first candle → only trade long
* bearish first candle → only trade short
* long stop-entry at OR high / short stop-entry at OR low
* initial stop = 0.10 × ATR
* no profit target; remaining positions close near EOD
I rebuilt the historical universe and signal pipeline, then eventually added SIP trades/quotes and an execution simulator.
Data/execution stack was mostly:
* Alpaca SIP historical trades/quotes/bars
* point-in-time-ish / survivorship-reduced US equity universe
* ticker/entity continuity handling
* \~310 ms empirical execution latency
* NBBO-based marketable execution
* IBKR-style commissions
* displayed-liquidity constraints in the later tests
* SSR handling
* partial fills / exit-liquidity handling
One limitation: this is not the paper's exact CRSP + IQFeed dataset, and the universe is not truly survivorship-free.
# 1. First surprise: I could reproduce the theoretical edge
The conventional/bar-style implementation looked good.
Approximate D2 theoretical expectancy:
**2016–2023: +0.15R/trade**
Later 2024–2026 period:
**\~+0.14R/trade**
On the exact subset that later received executable fills, the theoretical result was about +0.155R and +0.165R respectively.
So this wasn't a case where I simply coded the strategy and immediately got garbage.
The idealized strategy really did appear to have an edge.
**\[Chart 1 here: theoretical vs executable\]**
# 2. Then I replaced theoretical fills with SIP/NBBO execution
This was the point where everything changed.
Instead of assuming:
* breakout entry at exactly the OR level
* stop exit at exactly the stop price
I used historical SIP trades and NBBO quotes.
At approximately **310 ms latency**:
|Period|Theoretical D2|Executable|
|:-|:-|:-|
|2016–2023|\+0.155R|**−0.380R**|
|2024–2026|\+0.165R|**−0.616R**|
Even the **zero-latency executable bound was negative**:
* 2016–2023: −0.184R
* later period: −0.420R
That was the first major warning that this wasn't something a faster VPS or different broker would magically solve.
# Why?
The 0.10 ATR stop is extremely tight relative to actual market microstructure.
Median quoted spread near the stop execution was approximately:
* historical: **0.44R**
* later period: **0.58R**
In other words, if my entire intended loss is 1R, one side of the bid/ask spread alone is already a meaningful fraction of the whole risk budget.
And the strategy trades precisely when the market is moving quickly.
Entry moves through the breakout level.
Then, when the trade fails, the stop is triggered while price is moving against me.
The theoretical backtest effectively assumes:
>enter at the breakout level → lose exactly 1R if stopped.
Reality was more like:
>detect breakout → latency → cross spread → fill beyond breakout → anchor stop to actual fill → adverse move → trigger stop → latency → cross spread again.
That completely changed the payoff distribution.
# 3. I tried to rescue the execution problem
I preregistered 18 execution variants before testing them.
Variables included:
* 0.10 / 0.20 / 0.30 ATR stops
* spread filters
* market vs collared marketable-limit entries
**0/18 qualified.**
There was one interesting pocket:
* 0.10 ATR stop
* tight spread filter
* marketable-limit entry
The short side looked substantially better than the long side.
That led to one separate short-only hypothesis.
# 4. The short-only version was the most promising result I found
This version produced:
**2016–2026: +0.244R/trade**
with roughly:
* 1,666 fills
* 19% win rate
* PF \~1.26
* 7/11 positive years
DEV 2016–2020:
**+0.303R**
2021–2023:
**+0.120R**
2024–2026:
**+0.308R**
For a moment this looked like the thing that might survive.
But there were serious implementation problems.
The two hard failures were:
**1. Sample size**
Only 1,666 fills versus the preregistered 2,500 threshold.
**2. Actual displayed liquidity**
Median displayed coverage was only:
* **46% at entry**
* **25% at stop exit**
63.9% of entries wanted more shares than were displayed at the bid, and 79.6% of stop exits wanted more shares than were displayed at the offer.
There was also no reliable historical HTB/borrow dataset, which matters a lot for a short strategy selecting volatile, high-RVOL stocks.
The return distribution was very right-skewed:
* top 10 trades ≈ 66% of total net R
I don't consider concentration by itself a reason to reject a positively skewed strategy — tail strategies naturally depend on large winners.
But combined with the limited sample, depth problem and borrow uncertainty, it wasn't enough evidence to deploy.
# 5. Then I searched the ORB/RVOL design space systematically
Instead of continuing to manually tweak things, I built a preregistered search with realistic execution from the start.
It tested **20,009 configurations**.
Controls included:
* capacity-aware NBBO execution
* \~310 ms latency
* commissions
* SSR
* frozen search space
* no manual “try this after seeing the result”
* walk-forward testing
* parameter-neighbourhood / plateau testing
* Deflated Sharpe
* PBO
* White Reality Check
* Hansen SPA
* locked validation/holdout periods
Only **one configuration** passed the initial DEV gates.
It had approximately:
* \+0.071R DEV
* \+0.049R OOF
* PF \~1.11
* \~1,645 trades
But immediate neighbouring parameter settings fell toward zero or negative.
It looked like a **parameter spike rather than a stable plateau**.
Result:
**0 robust candidates out of 20,009 configurations.**
Among large-sample configurations, roughly **99.3% lost money OOF**.
White Reality Check p-value was approximately 1.0 and Hansen SPA approximately 0.92.
At that point I was no longer convinced there was a hidden ORB parameter combination waiting to be discovered.
# 6. Was the tight stop the real problem?
This became an important question.
Maybe the entry was actually good, but the 0.10 ATR stop was destroying it.
So I removed the stop entirely.
Same canonical ORB/RVOL entry.
No target.
Enter and simply hold until an executable 15:58 ET exit.
18,169 trades, 2016–2020.
Result:
**Gross before costs: −3.49 bps/trade**
**Net: −11.58 bps/trade**
Session-clustered t:
**−3.05**
95% bootstrap CI:
**−18.8 to −3.8 bps**
And:
**0/5 years positive.**
Longs and shorts were both negative.
That changed my interpretation significantly.
The tight stop absolutely makes execution worse.
But the stop was **not the whole problem**.
The canonical ORB/RVOL entry itself did not show robust positive entry→EOD directional alpha in my executable data.
# 7. Final experiment: maybe five minutes is simply too early
The original paper also tested a published **15-minute opening range**.
So instead of inventing another parameter after seeing the failures, I tested that externally specified variant.
09:30–09:45 OR.
RVOL recalculated using the first 15 minutes.
Everything else kept fixed.
This was interesting because waiting until 09:45 genuinely improved market microstructure.
# 5-minute vs 15-minute
Median spread/R:
**0.40 → 0.27**
Entry slippage:
**0.45R → 0.31R**
Entry fill vs OR level:
**0.30R → 0.19R**
Stop exit cost:
**0.39R → 0.27R**
Same-minute stops:
**27.5% → 15.9%**
Gap-through stops:
**30.5% → 22.5%**
So waiting until 09:45 did almost exactly what I hoped.
**\[Chart 3 and Chart 4 here\]**
But the actual returns were:
|Layer|5-minute|15-minute|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Paper/bar model|\+0.135R|\+0.073R|
|Optimistic executable|−0.415R|−0.327R|
|Realistic executable|−0.645R|−0.515R|
|Stress|−1.274R|−0.960R|
**\[Chart 2 here\]**
So the 15-minute version reduced execution damage materially.
It just didn't reduce it enough.
The signal only had \~+0.07R of theoretical expectancy available to pay for \~0.4–0.6R of executable friction.
Stop-hit rate also remained about **87%**.
# What I think actually happened
My current decomposition is roughly:
**Paper/bar backtest**
Signal alpha
− simplified/absent spread costs
− simplified stop fills
− simplified queue/depth
= attractive result
**Executable model**
small underlying signal
− entry spread
− breakout slippage
− fill anchoring
− stop spread/slippage
− fixed commissions
− capacity constraints
= negative expectancy
And after the no-stop test, I would add another issue:
>The canonical ORB direction signal itself seems much weaker than the headline backtest suggests.
The strategy is extremely positively skewed: lots of losses and rare very large winners.
That structure is real.
But the average executable loser becomes too expensive relative to the small theoretical edge.
# Things I learned the hard way
**1. A stop can be tiny statistically but huge microstructurally.**
0.10 ATR sounds reasonable until the spread is 0.4–0.6 of the entire stop distance.
**2. “Slippage = 1 tick” is not enough for strategies like this.**
The timing of the signal, quote, spread, latency, actual fill and subsequent stop matters.
**3. A profitable theoretical signal doesn't guarantee there is enough alpha to pay execution costs.**
\+0.15R looked substantial until the real execution waterfall was measured.
**4. Backtesting the stop can hide problems in the entry signal.**
Removing the stop and holding to EOD was probably one of the most useful diagnostics I ran.
**5. Parameter search can find something that looks profitable very easily.**
20,009 configurations produced one interesting spike.
Neighbourhood robustness killed it.
**6. Displayed liquidity matters even at surprisingly small account sizes.**
A $25k account with 1% risk can still ask for thousands of shares when the stop is only 0.10 ATR.
**7. A better execution environment cannot manufacture signal alpha.**
The 15-minute test is the cleanest example: spreads and stop execution improved substantially, but expectancy remained negative.
# Caveats
I'm **not claiming the paper is “wrong.”**
There are meaningful differences:
* paper used CRSP + IQFeed
* mine used Alpaca SIP
* my universe is survivorship-reduced, not perfectly survivorship-free
* there are unavoidable implementation ambiguities around same-bar sequencing
* historical borrow availability isn't fully observable
* my execution simulator is still a model, not actual historical broker fills
Also, after repeated ORB research, I no longer consider the later 2024–2026 data pristine OOS for newly generated hypotheses.
What I am comfortable saying is narrower:
>Under my data, universe and increasingly realistic SIP/NBBO execution assumptions, I could reproduce the theoretical ORB/RVOL effect, but I could not find robust evidence that the edge was executable.
At this point I've closed the ORB/RVOL research track rather than continue parameter mining.
The infrastructure is staying — SIP data ingestion, point-in-time mapping, execution simulator, IBKR integration, research framework, etc. — but I'll use it on different signal families.
I'd be interested in feedback from anyone who has independently tested this paper or another tight-stop intraday strategy using tick/NBBO data.
In particular:
* Did you see a similar theory → execution collapse?
* How do you model stops when the spread itself is a large fraction of R?
* Has anyone replicated this with IQFeed or another consolidated-feed dataset using executable quotes?
* Do you see a flaw in the execution assumptions above?
Happy to share more methodology/results if useful.
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Since this arrives at 11pm ET, I never know if this is meant to be about the previous day or the coming trading day.
Today was a good day to take profits on CCs and to place new CSPs. I hope tomorrow is the opposite!
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IMO, when you use the term 'lying', that implies an intentional deception. Personally, I seriously doubt that was the case. At least, it is not something I have ever encountered. I assume you looked at the links I provided.
A CSR may be responding based on how it used to be. Honestly, these appear to be decisions that their security AI is making. It is probably not an issue they address everyday.
I can understand your feeling of betrayal. Honestly, I have had issues when their 3rd party BillPay service did not do as I expected. But, at least for us, I think overall, their offering are head and shoulders above the alternatives.
This is how Google AI explains it:
when did Fidelity's policy on holding initial investments begin?
Fidelity Investments' notably stricter policy regarding extended holding periods for initial and uncollected deposits began in October 2024.
While Fidelity has always had a standard processing hold of 1–3 business days for electronic fund transfers (EFTs) and checks, they abruptly extended these holding periods up to 16 to 21 business days for many customers in the fall of 2024.
Why the policy shifted
Fidelity enacted these aggressive, temporary fraud-reduction restrictions following a viral social media scam. A widespread mobile check-fraud scheme (frequently referred to online as the "#fidelityboyz" glitch) targeted Fidelity Cash Management accounts. Scammers were depositing fake or altered checks via the mobile app and immediately withdrawing the cash before the checks could clear.
In response to this wave of fraud, Fidelity took immediate action by:
• Slashing mobile check deposit limits for certain accounts from $100,000 down to $1,000.
• Enforcing rigid, extended security holds (up to 16+ business days) to ensure funds completely clear from the originating bank before allowing withdrawals or transfers.
Current Guidelines
Fidelity has maintained stricter baseline holds since that security crackdown, with uncollected EFTs or check deposits frequently showing a holding period of up to 10 business days before they are fully cleared for withdrawal.
Note: You can usually still use these pending funds to trade basic stocks or mutual funds immediately, but you cannot transfer or withdraw the cash until the hold period concludes. To entirely bypass these holds, Fidelity recommends "pushing" funds from your bank using direct deposit or initiating a bank wire, which are credited immediately upon receipt.
If you are experiencing a hold on your account, I can help you look up the expected collection date or explain alternative transfer methods that clear instantly. Would that be helpful?
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Thanks for reaching out to this community. I am happy to help.
It sounds like you may be looking at a fund in your workplace plan, like a 401(k). You can see the transaction history, including dividends, on NetBenefits.com. Once you are logged in, follow these steps.
1. Click the 3 vertical dots next to the account
2. Select “Transaction History”
3. On the next page, tap on “Transaction History,” change the time period to what you want to see, and look for a transaction type that includes “Dividends”
Our workplace teams would be happy to help you if you have further questions. You can call them using the number at the following link. If it is a 401(k), the team is generally available Monday – Friday, 8:30 a.m.—8:30 p.m. ET. You can say “401(k)” when prompted to be directed to the correct team.
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Hey, hey! Thanks for commenting.
In this scenario, we recommend reaching out to our Technical Support team so that they can take a deeper look and get this figured out for you. Associates are available Monday through Friday from 8:30 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. ET. Please say "technical support" when prompted by the automated system to be connected to the right group.
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QQQE still holds Nvidia but caps it to about 1% of the bundle. If you truly want zero NVDA exposure you either pick an index that filters it out—an equal‑weight tech fund or a custom multi‑sector ET, or just go long QQQ and short NVDA. For options that’s basically a delta‑neutral play that removes the Nvidia delta.
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# Most standard options cannot be traded overnight; regular trading hours are 9:30 AM to 4:00 PM ET, with limited exceptions for certain index and ETF options.
What happens if you are using options to in a sense to "short" a company stock, and you can't trade after hours, when the price could make a big move up?
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Gotcha, thanks for bringing this up. When I went ahead and tested this, it still showed me the horizontal crosshair on the "Research" page for a security, and I'm not seeing any tech issue reports. I'll let our tech team know that this is happening for you so that they're aware of the issue.
To refresh your connection to the site, try these troubleshooting steps:
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2. Try a different web browser or a different device
3. Check the browser for any extensions, such as AdBlock, and disable them
If that still doesn't fix things, you can also talk to the tech team directly so they can troubleshoot further. Associates are available Monday through Friday from 8:30 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. ET.
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**10-Year Note**
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BTW, those trades will be canceled, apparently:
"Pursuant to Nasdaq Rule 11890(b), Nasdaq, on its own motion and in conjunction with NYSE Arca, Cboe Equities, FINRA, MEMX, MIAX, LTSE, IEX, and TXSE, has determined that all trades in BIYA executed on Nasdaq at or above $3.05 between 8:20:00 a.m. and 8:23:00 a.m. ET will be canceled."
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Hey, thanks for sharing more feedback with us today.
For many of the points you bring up, I will gladly add them to the input you shared previously. There are a few topics you mentioned that I do want to address in case you decide to keep using our platforms or come back to them in the future.
The fifth item you mentioned, about duplicate order errors, is not something we have numerous reports of, so if you run into something like that in the future, we suggest trying the standard troubleshooting steps to resolve it. Steps such as:
1. Ensure your device has the latest operating system, if possible
2. Complete a full power cycle of your device (turn it completely off & back on again)
3. Check for updates to Fidelity Trader+ Desktop
4. If the above steps do not help, please uninstall and reinstall Fidelity Trader+ Desktop
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For trouble logging in, this is also something we don't want to see our clients encountering, and we have not had reports of our platforms having trouble with recognizing correct passwords. If you run into this again, please contact us directly so our technical support team can evaluate what may be going on. If needed, this group is available Monday through Friday from 8:30 a.m. to 9:00 p.m. ET.
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Thank you again for sharing your frustrations. We hope to get things right for you, as we value you as a client. If anything else comes up in the future, please don't hesitate to reach out.
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HR rounds at these shops are mostly a fit and logistics screen. Expect why this firm and why electronic trading specifically, then a walk through your resume where they pick a project and ask what you personally built. Usually a couple of behavioral ones too, like a time something broke in production and how you handled it with people breathing down your neck. They'll also sort out the practical stuff like comp expectations and when you can start, plus work pass status if you're not already in Singapore, so have a number ready. Read up on what the firm actually does and what an ET engineer touches day to day (order routing, exchange connectivity, that kind of thing) because the why this role answer falls flat if you can't describe the job. If you're short on time, the project walkthrough and the why this role answer are the two to get right.
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4-7:59 pm ET orders are today T+1
8 pm - midnight orders are tomorrow T+1 (today T+2)
The tricky time is 7:59-8:01 pm ET Thursday. Could cost 3 days margin (4 days if Monday is a holiday).
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Let's discuss 401(k) contributions.
The ability to choose between a dollar amount and a percentage for your 401(k) contribution will be plan-specific. Some employers set up their plans to allow both choices, while others may allow one or the other.
Since maxing out your 401(k) is a goal, I wanted to highlight that typically, once you reach the maximum allowed contribution limit for your 401(k) for a tax year, the plan will either stop contributions for the remainder of that year automatically or your contributions will be changed to after-tax. This can vary depending on your plan's rules. Please note that Fidelity does not monitor whether you will overcontribute.
To review what your plan allows, you can refer to your Summary Plan Description (SPD). If your employer has provided us with the document, you can review it on Netbenefits.com by taking the steps below:
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2. Choose "Plan Information and Documents"
3. Select "Summary Plan Description (SPD)"
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