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Doesn’t mean he CAN

Why is XEQT the gold standard with such a major Canadian bias. Want to avoid potential US tax withholdings but also don't want to bet on a specific market. Anyone have some insights? Perhaps overweight $VXUS? I also happen to be duel citizen USA/CAN

Banbet! CAN to $2.50 15 days

The “kiddie tax” is not a separate tax you've never heard of; it is just regular old income tax. What the kiddie tax refers to is simply the closure of a loophole to prevent you from shifting too much unearned income to your minor children to lower the total family tax bill. Let's talk about it some more today.
# How Does the Kiddie Tax Work?
This subject should really be called the child income tax loophole. All the kiddie tax does is put a limit on how much income you can run through this loophole. When your children have unearned income, typically in a [Uniform Gift to Minors Account (UGMA) or Uniform Transfer to Minors Account (UTMA)](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/utma-and-ugma/), some of the income is tax-free, some of the income is taxed at the minor's tax rate, and the rest is taxed at the parent's rate. The tax paid for by the income taxed at the parent's rate is unaffectionately called the “kiddie tax.”
In 2025, the first $1,350 of unearned income for a child is taxed at 0%. The next $1,350 of unearned income for a child is taxed at their [tax bracket](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/how-tax-brackets-work/) (generally 0% for qualified dividends and long-term capital gains and 10% for other income). Thus, the “kiddie tax threshold” in 2025 is $2,700. This number is indexed to inflation, and it tends to increase each year. Keep in mind it is entirely possible for that income to be taxed at 0%—for example, if the income is qualified dividends and the parents are in the 0% qualified dividend bracket.
# Why Does the Kiddie Tax Exist?
The kiddie tax exists so that a parent does not give a minor child a lot of assets JUST to save the family a lot of taxes on the income associated with those assets. 
# What Income Is Subject to the Kiddie Tax? (Earned vs. Unearned Income)
Only unearned income is subject to the kiddie tax—such as interest, dividends, rents, royalties, taxable scholarships, pension income, annuity income, and capital gains. If they earn income at a job, from a household employer (think babysitting or mowing lawns in the neighborhood), or through self-employment, it's never subject to the kiddie tax. Earned income is always paid at the child's tax rate, usually 0%.
# When Does the Kiddie Tax Apply?
The kiddie tax applies to every dollar of unearned income beyond $2,700 in 2025. While the final tax bill for each year is due on or near April 15, our tax system is a pay-as-you-go system. If the child has so much unearned income that the kiddie tax due on it pushes the child out of the [safe harbor](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/estimated-taxes-and-the-safe-harbor-rule/), the child should start making quarterly estimated payments to cover that income. 
# What Is the Age Limit for the Kiddie Tax?
Kiddie taxes go away for dependents either for the tax year in which they turn 19 or, for full-time students, the tax year in which they turn 24. Here are the technical rules from the IRS instructions for [Form 8615](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8615.pdf).
Form 8615 must be filed for any child who meets all of the following conditions.
1. The child had more than \[$2,700\] of unearned income.
2. The child is required to file a tax return.
3. The child either:
* Was under age 18 at the end of 2025,
* Was age 18 at the end of 2025 and didn’t have earned income that was more than half of the child's support, or
* Was a full-time student at least age 19 and under age 24 at the end of 2025 and didn’t have earned income that was more than half of the child's support. (Earned income is defined later. Support is defined below.)
4. At least one of the child's parents was alive at the end of 2025.
5. The child doesn’t file a joint return for 2025.
For these rules, the term “child” includes a legally adopted child and a stepchild. These rules apply whether or not the child is a dependent. These rules don’t apply if neither of the child’s parents were living at the end of the year.
# What If the Child Is Not Your Dependent?
If the child is not a dependent, there is no kiddie tax. All of their unearned income is taxed at their own tax rates. If the child is a dependent but not your dependent, you also do not pay the kiddie tax.
# What Is the Kiddie Tax Rate?
The kiddie tax rate is variable, ranging from 0%-37%, not including state tax. It is simply the parent's marginal tax rate. For 2025, the tax rates on the child's income will fall into these ranges:
* First $1,350: 0%
* $1,351-$2,700: 0%-10%
* Above $2,700 (kiddie tax): 0%-37% depending on the parent's tax bracket 
# Who Is Subject to Kiddie Tax?
The parent of a dependent child under 18 or a full-time student under 24 if that child has more income than the kiddie tax income threshold ($2,700 in 2025) will be subject to kiddie tax. 
# How to Calculate the Kiddie Tax?
For simple ballpark estimates, simply multiply the amount of income the child has above $2,700 by the parent's marginal tax rate for that type of income. For formal calculation, use tax Form 8615 or[ tax software](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/best-tax-software/).
# How Is the Kiddie Tax Reported?
The kiddie tax is reported on [IRS Form 8615](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8615.pdf). It is a one-page, 18-line form filed with the child's tax return. Many people will never get past line 3 on this form because they don't owe kiddie tax. The rest of the form is basically just a math problem calculating the kiddie tax due. Note that lines 6, 9, and 10 must come from the parent's tax return, so the parental return has to be done before a child's return where kiddie tax is owed can be completed. If the parent has to file an extension, so does the child. 
# Does My Child Need to File Their Own Tax Return?
Whether a return needs to be filed on behalf of a child depends on the types and amounts of income they have. The rules are found in the instructions for [IRS Form 1040](https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf). Keep in mind that you CAN file a tax return even if it's not required. This can be useful to establish an income for a student loan Income Driven Repayment (IDR) program (especially useful as a fourth-year medical student for the tax year in which you started your fourth year). Filing can also be useful to get back withheld taxes as a tax refund.
Basically, if the dependent has unearned income over $1,350 in 2025, they have to file a return (whether any tax is due or not). If their earned income was more than the standard deduction ($15,750), you also have to file. However, there is a third rule which is slightly more complicated. If your gross income is more than the larger of $1,250 or your earned income plus $400, you also have to file.
However, just because a child has to file a return DOES NOT mean the child has to file a return separate from the parental return.The rules are basically that if the child is under 19 (or 24 if a full-time student), has no earned income, and does not have more than $12,500 in unearned income, you can file Form 8814 on your tax return instead of having them do a separate one. At any rate, if you don't want to do a separate return and qualify not to, expect to see Form 8814 on your tax return.
# What Strategies Can Be Used to Minimize Kiddie Tax?
**#1 Invest Preferentially in Tax-Protected Accounts**
Just like adults, kids should also invest in tax-protected accounts preferentially. These accounts minimize taxation (and thus grow faster without that tax drag), facilitate estate planning, and provide additional [asset protection](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/asset-protection/) in many states. These accounts may include a [529 account](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/best-529-plans-reviews-ratings-and-rankings/) and a [Roth IRA](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/why-i-love-the-roth-ira-back-to-basics/) If you're saving money for college, use a 529 account instead of a UTMA to avoid the kiddie tax. If they have earned income, use a Roth IRA instead of a UTMA to avoid the kiddie tax.
**#2 Invest Tax-Efficiently**
The same principles that apply in your [taxable account](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/retirement-accounts/the-taxable-investment-account-2/) apply to your child's taxable account; that's what a UTMA is. Use low-turnover, broadly diversified, low-cost [index funds](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/10-reasons-invest-index-funds/). Funds like the [Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/my-favorite-mutual-fund/) (VTSAX) have not distributed capital gains for decades. The dividend yield is relatively low, and it almost completely consists of qualified dividends. Don't buy and sell unnecessarily, triggering capital gains. Take advantage of the foreign tax credit and possibly even some [tax-loss harvesting](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/is-tax-loss-harvesting-worth-it/).
**#3 Keep Your UTMA to a 5-Figure Amount**
If you're investing tax-efficiently, you're unlikely to end up with a kiddie tax problem before the UTMA hits six figures. The current yield on VTSAX is 1.15%.
1.15% \* $100,000 = $1,150, well below the $2,600 kiddie tax threshold. In fact, you can have almost $200,000 in there before kiddie tax will be owed on its income. You could find an even more tax-efficient investment, such as Berkshire-Hathaway stock, [Bitcoin](https://www.whitecoatinvestor.com/reasons-to-invest-in-bitcoin/), or a rental property with lots of depreciation. But be careful not to let the tax tail wag the investment dog. If the UTMA is getting too large, you could even spend some of it. Just remember it has to be spent on the child. But most parents spend plenty of money on their children every year, so that shouldn't be a difficult limitation to get around.
Kiddie tax isn't a separate tax; it is just income tax. To prevent parents from shifting too much income to their kids, income above a certain threshold is taxed at the parent's tax rate. Knowing that the kiddie tax exists, though, could compel you to try to make sure you don't have to pay much or any of it.

10 DAYS OF SHORT COVERING CAN HIT $ 7.5

Whoever said I was wrong about CAN just know I won
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TEST ONE TWO ONE TWO? IS THIS THING ON? CAN U HEAR ME? NOD TWICE IF YES. I AM HUMAN, I REPEAT HUMAN - NOT A CLANKER. DONT SHOOT. SECRET PASSWORD? UH WHAT ABOUT ... FLESHIES BEFORE TIDDIES? *CLICK*
Phew, glad to see your faces WSB, i missed you

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>AMAZON WEB SERVICES [$AMZN](https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/AMZN) JUST SAID:
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>AWS: ON ERROR RATES, SAYS UNDERLYING DNS ISSUE WAS FULLY MITIGATED
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>US, AUSTRALIA TO SET UP CRITICAL MINERALS SUPPLY SECURITY UNIT
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>Bank of America today raised its price target on Google [$GOOGL](https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/GOOGL) to $280 up from $252 while maintaining its Buy rating
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>BOFA: HIGHER RISK OF FED B/SHEET RUNOFF IN OCTOBER
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>\*RISKS OF FED BALANCE\-SHEET RUNOFF IN OCT ARE HIGHER: BOFA SAYS
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Apple $AAPL is less than $100B away from passing over a $4 Trillion market cap
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︀︀Apple would be the 3rd company to hit the $4T milestone behind just Nvidia $NVDA and Microsoft $MSFT
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︀︀Apple \- First company to hit a $3 Trillion market cap
︀︀Nvidia \- First company to hit a $4 Trillion market cap
︀︀??? \- First company to hit a $5 Trillion market cap

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>TRUMP: CHINA PUNISHING OUR FARMERS BY NOT BUYING SOYBEANS
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>TRUMP: NOT GOING TO ALLOW CHINA TO PUNISH US FARMERS
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>🚨TRUMP: CHINA IS IN BIG TROUBLE IF THEY DON'T DO BUSINESS W/ US
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>TRUMP: I THINK CHINA WILL MAKE DEAL WITH US
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>TRUMP: CAN THREATEN CHINA WITH AIRPLANES
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>TRUMP: I LOVE MY RELATIONSHIP WITH XI
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>TRUMP: HAMAS DOESN'T HAVE THE BACKING OF IRAN ANYMORE

Me: "hey robinhood can I look at the page for CAN?"
HOOD: "I don't know, CAN you? lmao"

Nice run CAN bounced my stop loss and I'm out.
So big dip on COGT even though they recieved FDA approval announced 2 hours ago? Is it time to double down?

CAN, go buy CAN. Its getting institutional traction and everyone is piling in

# CAN YOU TAKE ME HIGHER?!?!
# TO A PLACE WITH GOLDEN STREETS?!?!

I think I $CAN, I think I $CAN

Yeah I also got some $RIOT. Not sure if I should just sell RIOT and dump it into $CAN

#NOBODY CAN EXECUTE A TRADE

CAN we get past 2?

In the world of markets and absolutes, you can’t really make this into a profitable statement. Sure you might get lucky, but timing the dip inevitably loses you money.
You CAN however say what goes down, must rise again - as long as you’re referring to good quality assets like gold or s&p etf’s, and you can generally go long with large cushion and will most likely profit if you go long enough out.
Don’t be a retarded bear dude

Crazy question, how many of you guys, actually worked at any single one of those companies? I would say it is extremely hard to compare two workplaces unless they are totally different league. Even then the comparison, while valid, is probably unfair. You can always compare prestige, and this too is extremely subjective. Quant companies are well regarded among the people \`who know\`, however average person has no clue what you do as quant developer/trader, and some of those who know will go like "Damn, providing liquidity to the market... so impactful.". The same goes for people that do internal library implementations / hardware level optimization at Big Tech. Those people are cracked, but again you will not rizz up a girl by saying "I've just implemented this super complicated thread pool system that uses \[insert SOTA buzzword\]". To the people that say "but X company has harder leetcodes during tech interviews" (You (((yes you))) CAN solve them, right?) - go touch a woman.

GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN THEYRE CUTRING RATES AND INFLATION IS GETTING WORSE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GREAT MELT UP

2 parts to the thesis, I believe:
1) Existing biz: bulls like that it is a leading maker of bitcoin mining rigs and mines Bitcoin itself, producing anywhere from 85-110 bitcoins per month, so they see CAN as a Bitcoin play.
2) Blue sky potential: bulls believe CAN could be like other bitcoin miners who have converted bitcoin mining capacity to a high compute/data center business model. Think IREN, WULF, CIFR, etc….When you look at some of those charts and you see where CAN is trading, you can understand how some people get excited about its prospects even though it has had a bit of a run recently.