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"DFINITY Foundation founder Dominic Williams explains Cloud Engines - a major Internet Computer innovation that lets you own and configure your own corner of the cloud network.

In this interview, Dominic breaks down how Cloud Engines give enterprises real control over their infrastructure while maintaining tamper-proof hosting guarantees.

What's covered:
* How Cloud Engines let you select specific nodes (by region, compliance, or provider)
* Running ICP on Amazon, Google, or sovereign hardware and migrating between them
* How to scale horizontally by adding nodes without changing a single line of code
* The 80/20 revenue model (80% to nodes, 20% burns ICP)
* Why node provider associations are already marketing Cloud Engines to European enterprise
* How Caffeine and Cloud Engines represent ICP's productization push
Whether you need GDPR compliance, multi-cloud portability, or simply want your own private subnet, Cloud Engines deliver a familiar cloud experience backed by decentralized infrastructure."

ICP

I bought ICP when it dropped from around $800 to $200. Thought for sure it would be going back up. What's it worth now, around $2.50? Also it is no longer in the top 50. I think it is a suspicious coin!

"DFINITY Foundation founder Dominic Williams explains Cloud Engines - a major Internet Computer innovation that lets you own and configure your own corner of the cloud network.

In this interview, Dominic breaks down how Cloud Engines give enterprises real control over their infrastructure while maintaining tamper-proof hosting guarantees.

What's covered:
* How Cloud Engines let you select specific nodes (by region, compliance, or provider)
* Running ICP on Amazon, Google, or sovereign hardware and migrating between them
* How to scale horizontally by adding nodes without changing a single line of code
* The 80/20 revenue model (80% to nodes, 20% burns ICP)
* Why node provider associations are already marketing Cloud Engines to European enterprise
* How Caffeine and Cloud Engines represent ICP's productization push
Whether you need GDPR compliance, multi-cloud portability, or simply want your own private subnet, Cloud Engines deliver a familiar cloud experience backed by decentralized infrastructure."

ICP

I bought ICP when it dropped from around $800 to $200. Thought for sure it would be going back up. What's it worth now, around $2.50? Also it is no longer in the top 50. I think it is a suspicious coin!

Bought more ICP...can't believe it's this cheap. Like buying AWS in 2010.

This post is useful precisely because it removes the marketing layer from the L2 discussion.
What stands out to me is that this isn’t a rejection of rollups, but a redefinition of responsibility. If an L2 can’t or won’t meet Stage 1/2 guarantees, that’s not necessarily a failure — but calling it “Ethereum scaling” becomes misleading. Framing L2s as a spectrum of trust models feels much more honest.
The idea of native rollup precompiles is especially interesting here. If Ethereum can enshrine verification while letting L2s experiment on execution and features, that seems like a cleaner long-term separation of concerns than today’s patchwork of security councils and upgrade assumptions.
It also explains why so many teams are converging on specialization: privacy, app-specific execution, UX, or non-financial use cases. Scaling for its own sake isn’t the differentiator anymore.
For anyone who wants a broader synthesis of how different ecosystems (Ethereum devs, ZK teams, Solana, ICP, app-focused chains) reacted to this reframing, this write-up pulls the threads together fairly well:
[https://open.substack.com/pub/btcusa/p/are-layer-2-blockchains-losing-their?r=6y5uc8&utm\_campaign=post&utm\_medium=web](https://open.substack.com/pub/btcusa/p/are-layer-2-blockchains-losing-their?r=6y5uc8&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web)
Curious to see how quickly “Ethereum scaling” shifts from a slogan to a set of clearly stated guarantees users can actually reason about.

Yes, but the version you are trying to swap is a wrapped version of ICP, making it an ERC-20 token

I know what ICP is, this doesn't answer my question.
ETH rethinking scaling via L2 reflects positively on chains that focused on scaling the L1, like Solana, because those are pretty much opposite approaches.
Now do it for ICP.
Fill in the blanks:
"ETH rethinking scaling via L2 reflects positively on ICP because ___________________"

I am biased but I really do recommend that you read into ICP and it being the world computer. Ethereum is trying to rebrand itself as that and it on a technical level cannot do that. The world computer narrative is incredibly bullish especially right now.
[https://x.com/PierreSamaties/status/2013734296209535100](https://x.com/PierreSamaties/status/2013734296209535100)
[https://theconversation.com/europe-wants-to-end-its-dangerous-reliance-on-us-internet-technology-274042](https://theconversation.com/europe-wants-to-end-its-dangerous-reliance-on-us-internet-technology-274042)
[https://crypto.news/ethereum-must-meet-world-computer-test-without-losing-decentralization/](https://crypto.news/ethereum-must-meet-world-computer-test-without-losing-decentralization/)
[https://internetcomputer.org/](https://internetcomputer.org/)
[https://x.com/SwissSubnet/status/2013744588054315242](https://x.com/SwissSubnet/status/2013744588054315242)
[https://x.com/dominic\_w/status/2014033354056773709](https://x.com/dominic_w/status/2014033354056773709)

You think ICP will ever bounce back? Seems like they are stuck at 4 bucks per coin since forever

HBAR, ICP and Nerva (XNV)

Solana benefits from the “L2 fatigue” narrative as a high throughput transaction chain, but ICP benefits from it as a full stack world computer. Those aren’t the same category.

Plenty of coins don't need subnetworks to work, why would you immediately think ICP would be the beneficiary?
If anything this is bullish for chains like Solana, who are already having a lot of success with a scalable monolithic L1(and to a lesser extent Monad and some others) or it's bullish for L2s who are more purpose-built for novel usage rather than general purpose scaling.
It's definitely bearish ETH, but I don't see why ICP would benefit any more than any other chain and I don't see how Solana wouldn't be the greatest beneficiary of this narrative change.