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Bitcoin / Tether USD Jun 12 2024 67500.00 Call
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BTC guaranteed to double within 4 years.

You clearly don’t understand the difference between a bearer commodity and a security. “My AI stock might outperform BTC” misses the whole point of what makes BTC unique.

Going 25-30% underwater in BTC is nothing

We are in extreme fear index. Go ask anyone you know. All of them will advise you to stay away from Crypto/BTC. What does it tell you. We haven’t learnt anything from 2022 bottom. Always DCA when there is fear.

back then, you had to buy it with libertyreserve. there wasn't even bitinstant nor mtgox yet. I think the second time i bought was through tradehill.
I was a college kid, and i mailed in cash to get the libertyreserve, and i think the process took 2 weeks before i saw my wallet balance go up.
I also made money through BCH by selling all my BTC for BCH at the right time, then going back into BTC.
Also, avalanche was originally meant to be built upon BCH. only OGs know this. Gun and Kevin presented avalanche at a bch conference, years before it would become its own coin.
I was there in the scaling wars, i was in r/bitcoin before theymos hijacked it, I was in a secret channel with jeff garzik and some others on slack during segwit2x.
I participated in the avax "defi summer", where i got JOE at $0.03 and sold it over $1.80 . I got the crabada airdrops , and made six figures just from breeding crabs (bulk crabs to be specific).
and like I said, I stabled (converted entire net worth to USDC) at a good time. I loan against my crypto for fiat , and i have several wallets that are not tied to any KYC exchange. Unlike you, I don't ever have to work or 'invest' or risk my assets. I bet i earn more passively from just supplying on AAVE with stablecoins than you make in a year.

Yea I know, I was not working, income was non existent, I was living off of my BTC. I had 3 coins, with no debt, I took out the loan to buy 1 more coin to get me to 4 coins total. I was desperate to get to 6.15 coins.
And 2021 when it was at $65,000, that’s when I bought the 4th coin with the loan. From there Bitcoin just tumbled all the way down to $15,000 I’m 2022.
I was paying my car note, rent, groceries, everything with my Bitcoin. I sold some every month on the way down to pay for my necessities. By Dec.2023 I was left with over $45k in debt from the loan, and had to move back with my parents.
Right now I’m just finally debt free and have been slowly stacking and I’m nowhere near 0.10 bitcoin lol. It’s a lesson learned, something I might regret for the rest of my life. But I still believe in Bitcoin, I still believe that DCA is the way to go. Patience always wins.

- The spread on Trader Republic is horrible.
- They directly take out taxes after the trade.
- They can block your account at any time for AML checks or whatever for as long as they like 
- Not your keys not your coins.
You can swap BTC comfortably into stablecoin directly in the Ledger app.

Op
You already know you wouldn't sell at 300k, you'd be waiting for 500k next
Delusional BTC holders

Btc could just stay at 60k plus inflation, so it stabilizes at its current rate…. Then it’s perfectly in between 🤣 I bought BTC 2 years ago at 58 usd and I HODLed. It’s currently exactly where it was if you factor in inflation.

I'm a big BTC believer, yet I still think this is a very bad idea. Investing your entire life savings in a highly volatile and highly speculative asset shows a lack of proper financial judgment.Even if BTC keeps reaching new all time highs in the future, there's a good chance you still won't make money. You'll either sell your holdings at a loss during a bear season, or you'll cash out too early and miss much better prices later on because of the stress

There are a lot of options to make money. Same risk and BTC but more reward.
Plus going all in on one basket is dumb. (I an a full coiner but i also ingest jn AI and space and other sectors as well.

I suspect that it eventually will. I wouldn't want to be the last person holding that hot potato when it cracks. Only invest in BTC what you are willing to lose imo.

You can say whatever you want but people are using BTC, not BCH.
The market doesn't care about the blocksize.

People on this sub constantly think BTC is going to zero because it's dumps a bit. On the other side people thought when it pumped a little a little while back that it was going to break the ATH. Both times I said we are still in a bear run. Those people didn't understand how BTC works. I could've told you 8 years ago that in 2026 we would be in a bear run. People who don't understand are making snap decisions either it's going to the moon or BTC is going to zero when this bear market is exactly what is predicted by the BTC system put in place in 2009. Anybody who feels differently just literally doesn't understand because they haven't looked into the cycles of how this works. I am not calling them stupid but I genuinely don't know how to express talking about people that speak on something they have never taken the time to understand and think of it like some bullshit altcoin or a random stock on the stock market.
You feel differently to me. Tell me why? It would also be great if you left out the teenage frustrated exclamations as well. That whole last comment reeked of a hormonal teenager. I genuinely want to hear some who disagrees with me make sense. I rarely do which is why I still hold my position on BTC. I am convincible if you make some points that I can't disagree with.
Also Trump is a paedo conman. I have never understood how people could believe a word he says from the get go. Not sure why you brought him up.

Also I don't understand people going all in on BTC anymore. There are better plays and he probably makes the same money in the stock market. BTC is at 63k the all time high is only a 1x. Actually less than 1x..so even getting to all time. This could take years. Might be 2-3 years before we hit that is a 1x. No yeild no ability to leverage. Just people making stupid mistakes.
On top of that investing is mental. Bitcoin rises all the way to 90,000 and then he comes all the way back down to $70,000 and keep swing trading between that amount. Having all your money especially $179,000 is going to make people make stupid decisions by either buying more or dumping. If it drops below 60k to 55k it also can make you panic and sell if you need cash. I don't understand people who encourage this l, when half the people on these post don't have more than 25k in investments. But heya fool And there money will depart.

Fair play to you man, that’s conviction! I guess it depends on where and when you bought BTC - was it at the recent lows around $60K?

Buying when BTC is at its highest price is clearly blindly following the trend.

Not sure why you say that. Returns (up and downs) from the Stock market and even index funds are similar to BTC over the past 5 years.
The only difference is that you get vastly higher risk with crypto.....to seek the same or lesser return.
It's only a guess, but 3 or 4 stocks like Nvidia, Google, Apple, etc - over the past 5 years - have made vastly (like 5X or more) of the return, while having vastly less risk.......
When Crypto was dirt cheap it was "nothing ventured nothing lost" - but now it is different and folks would be wise to compare it to stuff with less risk.
Of course, it's hard to believe the OP.....why do it? And why tell the world?

The BTC part isn't even the scariest bit, the 100% allocation habit is. Decide now what number makes you take some risk off, because you'll be much worse at making that call when the chart is moving 12% in a day.

> The original argument was about capacity and decentralization tradeoffs, not some shadowy conspiracy, and reasonable people landed on different sides depending on what they weighted more heavily.
Ok but one side was completely wiped off the discussion via zensorship. And 9 years later we know everything they said came true about BTC and LN. People moved to other coins because BTC was congested and expensive. LN doesn't help scaling at all and is mostly used custodial. The whole narrative around BTC changed away from p2p cash and is more about making more dollars.
So where is your promised nuance?