BTCUSDMOVED20210616
Bitcoin June 16 2021 Daily MOVE Contracts
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Automatic trade sells .1 BTC every week on schedule through Kraken, like a reverse DCA.

Holding BTC while the largest buyer Saylor who pumped the price runs out of money and becomes a seller, is more expensive.

BTC is definitely for Rich's people.. let it be said.. but only if they got the brain to understand BTC true role in wealth accumulation strategy.. most reals Rich's does.. fake Rich don't.. if someone defined poor end up thinking and knowing what and how Rich's does. I can guarantee you that if he works for more than he is spending. He won't stay poor very long. Invest man.. it's your own way to live off everyone else that ain't have learnt the real economics.. and yes it's unfair.. and that is to be truthfully corrected by ours school's.. but guess what. They won't if you don't force them to. The rich decide what is thaught in schools. And they clearly decided worldwide to keep us slaves from our own ignorance in economics.

I don't want half of that junk. Is there a LTC-only ETF? Then I can just buy that and a BTC and a ETH one in the proportions I choose.

I agree with your point of view , in my opinion IBIT or any BTC ETF is safer than holding Bitcoin, if you don't believe me ask all those who have lost their precious Bitcoin either by a jack, sent to the wrong address or lost their 24 words

At $200 a month your gonna take 6 months just to gain 0.01 BTC per year do the math from there

nobody can predict short-term price with any accuracy but the signals worth tracking:
ETF inflows (mentioned above) are probably the highest-signal indicator right now — when institutional flows go consistently positive for 2+ weeks, that tends to be a leading indicator before retail FOMO kicks in.
funding rates: when funding goes highly positive (longs paying a lot to shorts), that's a sign the rally is leveraged and fragile. neutral or slightly positive funding during a price rise is healthier.
exchange BTC reserves: consistently declining reserves = net outflow to cold storage = longer-term bullish signal as supply on exchanges shrinks.
macro: DXY and 10-year yields still matter. dollar strength tends to be a headwind for BTC even with ETF cushion now.
honest answer: nobody knows next month's price, but those metrics tell you whether the current move is structurally sound or sentiment-driven.

I recently noticed something that doesn’t seem right and wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this.
I have a recurring BTC buy set up on OKX. My latest purchase converted **20 USDC** into **0.00030894889 BTC**, which works out to an execution price of **64,735.63**
**At** 16:54 CST for BTC USDC convert
At the time my order executed the OKX BTC USDC spot price was around 64100 but I got filled at 64735 almost 1% higher. I know Convert has a spread but 1% for a $20 BTC buy seems crazy. A normal spot market order shouldnt have anywhere near that much slippage.

[PROOF](https://imgur.com/NU6Ivxx)
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Prices good until 3PM AZ time Sunday.
**SILVER**
Misc 1oz bars and rounds and 5oz bars $58/oz
* https://imgur.com/DrgGi28
* Top items, next to the Greysheet.
Holed Peace dollar $40
* https://imgur.com/l0xgRMA
1986 Commemorative dollar $42
* https://imgur.com/Gu5Lzlp
YPS Farm Animals (with COA) $60/oz
* https://imgur.com/KjnnEnt
* https://imgur.com/n6yRXIh
1968 25 Peso $32
* https://imgur.com/ELLN6zh
Roll of ASE $1250
* https://imgur.com/5HvPPn9
$30 fv dimes 39x for all or 40x for less.
2oz Egyptian Gods Anubis Round Ultra High Relief $170
* https://imgur.com/5XIUwZL
2020 Star Wars Mandalorian Mythosaur Skull $80
* https://imgur.com/oT2CDLV
2017 Great Britain Landmarks of Britain (Big Ben) $69
* https://imgur.com/trhMRzd
15x 2020 South Korea Phoenix $90 each or all for $1300
* https://imgur.com/av6OG9T
* One has slight toning.
2015 Fiji Iguana $65
* https://imgur.com/trhMRzd
Pirate Booty Bullion 10.6oz Rattle Snake $890
* https://imgur.com/r1PT6OY
2 NGC MS69 ASE $68 each
* https://imgur.com/aHsvB4X
Group pic https://imgur.com/DkLqxiY
* 2x 1oz Swiss of America pucks/rolos $95 each
* 2015 Rodebaugh Rolo $85
* 5oz YPS Butterfly $400
17x 2023 1oz Libertad $95 each
* https://imgur.com/21cwYHZ
**GOLD**
Small Carded
* 1/2g IGR $80 and 1g Valcambi $150
* https://imgur.com/exVcVZc
1913 or 1929 $2.5 Indian $640
Only selling one. First one gone removes them both from being available.
* https://imgur.com/zSQf0QY
* https://imgur.com/ohKTozG
1999 1/2oz Alaska Mint $2045
* https://imgur.com/sR5ws1Q
2x Carded 1oz Valcambi bars $4070 each
* https://imgur.com/K7DWxaX
**COPPER**
$3 per oz
* 5 5oz rounds
* 2 1oz rounds
* https://imgur.com/AePQfGF
Libertad tributes
4x 5 oz $23 each
* https://imgur.com/hwyun7d
19x 1oz $4 each
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50g gold plated copper round $5
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Feels like BTC due for an aggressive dump, esp. looking at the 1Y

BTC is the coin you hold, you sell others.

I don't try to call bottoms. I'm more interested in seeing Bitcoin become more productive over time, and TBVs are part of that bigger picture because they give native BTC the potential to participate in more use cases instead of just sitting idle.

When BTC falls to $10 you will achieve your goal

To feel the weicht of 1 BTC

There is a time to use platforms.
I have some older relatives invested in BTC, and I have them using platforms.
It's right for them.
Self-custody is right for me.

Hi all, continuing to thin the herd, little bit of everything here
Proof1: [https://i.postimg.cc/4XRHm9r8/PMFS072426PROOF1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/4XRHm9r8/PMFS072426PROOF1.jpg)
Proof2: [https://i.postimg.cc/rMkq4Nwn/PMFS072426PROOF2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/rMkq4Nwn/PMFS072426PROOF2.jpg)
I think I'm about right on all the pricing but open to reasonable supported offers if I'm way off on anything
Payment by CashApp, PPFF, Zelle, open to BTC if you cover any fees on your end
All items will be carefully packed and shipped USPS Priority Mail with tracking - $8.00 for one or all
Some have toning starting, most capsules are scuffed or scratched a bit, a few have minor cracks - this should show in the pics but let me know if this is important to you and I'll be happy to send more detailed pics
I’m at work so please be patient if I don’t get back to you immediately, will go in order of messages received quickly as I can
Thank you for looking!
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2021 Britannia (1,2,3,4,5,6) $61.00
2020 Krugerrand (1,2,3,4) $61.00
2018 Krugerrand $61.00
2020 ASE (1,2,3,4) $63.00
2015 Gabon Springbok $61.00
2021 Armenia Ark (1,2,3) $64.00
2013 Philharmonic (1,2) $61.00 - some milkspotting
2020 Libertad $74.00
2020 Brit IndianOceanTerr. Turtle $61.00
2001 Alderny Millenium $61.00
2021 Australia Swan $64.00
2019 British Royal Arms $69.00
2014 Gairsoppa 1/4oz $32.00
2010 France 10 Euro $75.00
2006 Portugal Henry the Navigator $64.00
1oz Colorized Alphonse Mucha “Dance” $64.00
5oz Antique Alphonse Mucha “Dance” $335.00
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Closer Pics
Britannias1: [https://i.postimg.cc/YMHtFzCR/BRIT1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/YMHtFzCR/BRIT1.jpg)
Britannias2: [https://i.postimg.cc/Skhm9fx2/BRIT2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/Skhm9fx2/BRIT2.jpg)
Krugerrands1: [https://i.postimg.cc/Kx2mTD88/KRUG1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/Kx2mTD88/KRUG1.jpg)
Krugerrands2: [https://i.postimg.cc/ZZ3T0M4W/KRUG2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/ZZ3T0M4W/KRUG2.jpg)
ASE1: [https://i.postimg.cc/mRMbh5BZ/ASE1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/mRMbh5BZ/ASE1.jpg)
ASE2: [https://i.postimg.cc/tyPX7MpG/ASE2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/tyPX7MpG/ASE2.jpg)
Philharmonics1: [https://i.postimg.cc/DFs2mMFY/PHIL1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/DFs2mMFY/PHIL1.jpg)
Philharmonics2: [https://i.postimg.cc/kCLJJm3P/PHIL2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/kCLJJm3P/PHIL2.jpg)
Armenia Ark1: [https://i.postimg.cc/HH5pjhdD/ARK1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/HH5pjhdD/ARK1.jpg)
Armenia Ark2: [https://i.postimg.cc/px82y6x3/ARK2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/px82y6x3/ARK2.jpg)
LIbertad,Turtle,Springbok1: [https://i.postimg.cc/CMySmjHp/TURTLELIBSBOK1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/CMySmjHp/TURTLELIBSBOK1.jpg)
LIbertad,Turtle,Springbok2: [https://i.postimg.cc/XNM4QwKD/TURTLELIBSBOK2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/XNM4QwKD/TURTLELIBSBOK2.jpg)
Swan,Alderny,RoyalArms1: [https://i.postimg.cc/8pfTRyv3/SWANALDERNYROYALA1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/8pfTRyv3/SWANALDERNYROYALA1.jpg)
Swan,Alderny,RoyalArms2: [https://i.postimg.cc/Ns2Q6NXN/SWANALDERNYROYALA2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/Ns2Q6NXN/SWANALDERNYROYALA2.jpg)
France10E,PortugalHtN,Gairsoppa,Mucha1oz1: [https://i.postimg.cc/RSJv7PtG/HENRYGAIRSFRMUCHA1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/RSJv7PtG/HENRYGAIRSFRMUCHA1.jpg)
France10E,PortugalHtN,Gairsoppa,Mucha1oz2: [https://i.postimg.cc/dsZJ2WC6/HENRYGAIRSFRMUCHA2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/dsZJ2WC6/HENRYGAIRSFRMUCHA2.jpg)
5oz Alphonse Mucha Dance1: [https://i.postimg.cc/nF9n4dmG/5OZMUCHADANCE1.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/nF9n4dmG/5OZMUCHADANCE1.jpg)
5oz Alphonse Mucha Dance2: [https://i.postimg.cc/nF9n4dmB/5OZMUCHADANCE2.jpg](https://i.postimg.cc/nF9n4dmB/5OZMUCHADANCE2.jpg)

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the dismissive responses here aren't wrong per se — most altcoins underperform BTC over any meaningful timeframe. but "all alts are dead" misses the actual question, which is about approach, not whether it's possible.
what actually separates people who make money on alts from those who don't:
1. picking alts with real revenue — protocols that generate fees, have token buybacks/burns, and would survive a bear market because users actually need them (ETH, AAVE, UNI, etc) vs pure speculation plays
2. position sizing — keeping alts to 15-25% of portfolio max, so BTC/ETH carry the bulk and alt losses don't wipe gains
3. entry timing — alts tend to outperform BTC late in bull cycles when BTC dominance peaks and capital rotates. buying alts in sideways/bear market is where most people get burned.
4. setting profit targets in advance — alts are volatile by design, and people who made money typically had a "sell 50% at 2x" discipline rather than HODLing until it reversed.
none of this guarantees anything, but those are the actual variables that matter.

>**A permissioned pool,**
>**Trying so hard to be cool,**
>**Fell off a barstool.**
~Daily haiku until we’re at least at 0.178 on the ETH/BTC ratio or highest market cap

the LTC test-run approach was smart. for estate liquidation of small amounts, the real picture:
for the swap layer: Thorchain is the most trustless option for cross-chain without custody — ETH to native BTC, LTC, etc., with on-chain verification of the whole route. fixed-rate services (ChangeNow, FixedFloat) give you a locked quote so you're not exposed to slippage during execution.
the KYC bottleneck eventually reappears when you need fiat — most banks will ask questions about a sudden deposit from a crypto source regardless of how you got there. keeping a simple paper trail (screenshot of wallet, brief note about estate context) helps if that comes up later.
for the actual consolidation: ETH or BTC are the easiest end-state to off-ramp from, so converting everything there first then going fiat is cleaner than routing through LTC. Kraken's verification queue is annoying but their support is good for estate situations if you contact them directly explaining the context.

I don’t think the amount of money from people that would use btc on cold wallets would sustain a BTC price of more than $1000. And if they aren’t using cold wallets then they might as well use tokenized RWAs