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50 days ago • u/AdShot3417 • r/IndianStockMarket • unpopular_opinion_rooftop_solar_is_a_better • C
it has accounted as well,
If you are setting up an independent residential property with a plot, a ₹10 Lakh system translates to a massive **20 kW plant**. A house will rarely consume 100% of the power a 20 kW plant produces, which drastically changes the XIRR.
Here is the exact, edge-case-verified breakdown for **Waaree Energies panels** in Gujarat (DGVCL region).
### 1. The Real-Life Constraints & Edge Cases
* **The Export Penalty:** DGVCL will charge you roughly **₹8.00 per unit** for power you consume from the grid (highest slab + fuel surcharge). However, under the GERC Net Metering Policy, they buy back your surplus power at the Average Pooled Power Purchase Cost (APPC), which is only **₹2.25 per unit**.
* **Waaree's Real Degradation:** Waaree TopCon/Mono-PERC panels have a 25-year performance warranty. Real-world physics dictates a 1% drop in year one, and a 0.4% drop every year after. By Year 25, the panels operate at about 85% capacity.
* **The Hidden Costs (O&M & Inverter):** Solar panels last 25 years, but the **solar inverter will die around Year 10–12**. A 20 kW inverter replacement costs roughly ₹1,00,000. You also need to account for ₹12,000/year (rising with inflation) for professional panel cleaning and electrical maintenance.
### 2. The Capital Layout
* **Gross Investment:** ₹10,00,000 (Approx 20 kW system)
* **Central Subsidy Cap:** -₹78,000 (Maximum limit for residential under PM Surya Ghar)
* **Actual Capital Outflow:** **₹9,22,000**
### 3. Real-Life Generation & Consumption Math
A 20 kW Waaree system in Gujarat generates about **28,000 units** in its first year.
For a large bungalow running central or multiple ACs, a realistic heavy usage is 14,000 units per year. You will export the remaining 14,000 units.
The annual cash flow equation is:
$$ \text{Net Return}_t = (\text{Consumed}_t \times \text{Grid Rate}_t) + (\text{Exported}_t \times \text{Buyback Rate}) - \text{O&M}_t $$
* **Savings on Consumed Power (14,000 units \times ₹8.00):** ₹1,12,000
* **Earnings on Exported Power (14,000 units \times ₹2.25):** ₹31,500
* **Minus Year 1 O&M:** -₹12,000
* **Real Year 1 Net Profit:** **₹1,31,500**
### 4. Verified 25-Year Cash Flow Projection
This model accounts for 3% annual grid tariff inflation, 0% export tariff inflation (it stays fixed at ₹2.25), 5% O&M inflation, and panel degradation.
| Year | Total Generation (Units) | Grid Rate (Inflating) | Gross Profit (Savings + Export) | O&M & Replacements | Net Real Cash Flow |
| :--- | :--- | :--- | :--- | :--- | :--- |
| **0** | — | — | — | — | **(-₹9,22,000)** |
| **1** | 28,000 | ₹8.00 | ₹1,43,500 | ₹12,000 | **₹1,31,500** |
| **5** | 27,550 | ₹9.00 | ₹1,56,400 | ₹14,580 | **₹1,41,820** |
| **10** | 27,000 | ₹10.43 | ₹1,75,200 | ₹18,600 | **₹1,56,600** |
| **12** | 26,780 | ₹11.07 | ₹1,83,780 | **₹1,20,500** *(Inverter)* | **₹63,280** |
| **15** | 26,460 | ₹12.10 | ₹1,97,400 | ₹23,750 | **₹1,73,650** |
| **20** | 25,930 | ₹14.03 | ₹2,23,100 | ₹30,300 | **₹1,92,800** |
| **25** | 25,300 | ₹16.26 | ₹2,53,000 | ₹38,700 | **₹214,300** |
### 5. Final XIRR & Financial Verdict
When you map these exact inflows and outflows over Waaree's 25-year lifespan:
* **True Payback Period:** **6.8 Years** (You recover the ₹9.22 Lakh midway through Year 7).
* **Total Net Profit (After all expenses & initial cost):** **~₹29.8 Lakhs**
* **Real-Life XIRR:** **13.2%**
**The Reality Check:**
A 13.2% post-tax, risk-free XIRR is exceptional for a physical asset, beating almost all fixed-income instruments. However, it is not the 20%+ that marketing brochures promise. To push the XIRR closer to 18%, the property would need to consume 100% of the generated power (meaning zero units exported at the low ₹2.25 rate), which is highly unlikely unless a commercial manufacturing or distribution facility is operating on the premises.
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50 days ago • u/AdShot3417 • r/IndianStockMarket • unpopular_opinion_rooftop_solar_is_a_better • C
it has accounted as well,
If you are setting up an independent residential property with a plot, a ₹10 Lakh system translates to a massive **20 kW plant**. A house will rarely consume 100% of the power a 20 kW plant produces, which drastically changes the XIRR.
Here is the exact, edge-case-verified breakdown for **Waaree Energies panels** in Gujarat (DGVCL region).
### 1. The Real-Life Constraints & Edge Cases
* **The Export Penalty:** DGVCL will charge you roughly **₹8.00 per unit** for power you consume from the grid (highest slab + fuel surcharge). However, under the GERC Net Metering Policy, they buy back your surplus power at the Average Pooled Power Purchase Cost (APPC), which is only **₹2.25 per unit**.
* **Waaree's Real Degradation:** Waaree TopCon/Mono-PERC panels have a 25-year performance warranty. Real-world physics dictates a 1% drop in year one, and a 0.4% drop every year after. By Year 25, the panels operate at about 85% capacity.
* **The Hidden Costs (O&M & Inverter):** Solar panels last 25 years, but the **solar inverter will die around Year 10–12**. A 20 kW inverter replacement costs roughly ₹1,00,000. You also need to account for ₹12,000/year (rising with inflation) for professional panel cleaning and electrical maintenance.
### 2. The Capital Layout
* **Gross Investment:** ₹10,00,000 (Approx 20 kW system)
* **Central Subsidy Cap:** -₹78,000 (Maximum limit for residential under PM Surya Ghar)
* **Actual Capital Outflow:** **₹9,22,000**
### 3. Real-Life Generation & Consumption Math
A 20 kW Waaree system in Gujarat generates about **28,000 units** in its first year.
For a large bungalow running central or multiple ACs, a realistic heavy usage is 14,000 units per year. You will export the remaining 14,000 units.
The annual cash flow equation is:
$$ \text{Net Return}_t = (\text{Consumed}_t \times \text{Grid Rate}_t) + (\text{Exported}_t \times \text{Buyback Rate}) - \text{O&M}_t $$
* **Savings on Consumed Power (14,000 units \times ₹8.00):** ₹1,12,000
* **Earnings on Exported Power (14,000 units \times ₹2.25):** ₹31,500
* **Minus Year 1 O&M:** -₹12,000
* **Real Year 1 Net Profit:** **₹1,31,500**
### 4. Verified 25-Year Cash Flow Projection
This model accounts for 3% annual grid tariff inflation, 0% export tariff inflation (it stays fixed at ₹2.25), 5% O&M inflation, and panel degradation.
| Year | Total Generation (Units) | Grid Rate (Inflating) | Gross Profit (Savings + Export) | O&M & Replacements | Net Real Cash Flow |
| :--- | :--- | :--- | :--- | :--- | :--- |
| **0** | — | — | — | — | **(-₹9,22,000)** |
| **1** | 28,000 | ₹8.00 | ₹1,43,500 | ₹12,000 | **₹1,31,500** |
| **5** | 27,550 | ₹9.00 | ₹1,56,400 | ₹14,580 | **₹1,41,820** |
| **10** | 27,000 | ₹10.43 | ₹1,75,200 | ₹18,600 | **₹1,56,600** |
| **12** | 26,780 | ₹11.07 | ₹1,83,780 | **₹1,20,500** *(Inverter)* | **₹63,280** |
| **15** | 26,460 | ₹12.10 | ₹1,97,400 | ₹23,750 | **₹1,73,650** |
| **20** | 25,930 | ₹14.03 | ₹2,23,100 | ₹30,300 | **₹1,92,800** |
| **25** | 25,300 | ₹16.26 | ₹2,53,000 | ₹38,700 | **₹214,300** |
### 5. Final XIRR & Financial Verdict
When you map these exact inflows and outflows over Waaree's 25-year lifespan:
* **True Payback Period:** **6.8 Years** (You recover the ₹9.22 Lakh midway through Year 7).
* **Total Net Profit (After all expenses & initial cost):** **~₹29.8 Lakhs**
* **Real-Life XIRR:** **13.2%**
**The Reality Check:**
A 13.2% post-tax, risk-free XIRR is exceptional for a physical asset, beating almost all fixed-income instruments. However, it is not the 20%+ that marketing brochures promise. To push the XIRR closer to 18%, the property would need to consume 100% of the generated power (meaning zero units exported at the low ₹2.25 rate), which is highly unlikely unless a commercial manufacturing or distribution facility is operating on the premises.
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