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1 BTC is a significant sum to most people even in the wealthiest countries today, let alone in the future. If you’re living in a lower cost country you wouldn’t need one whole coin. Just stack as much as you can and know that your stack will rise in value. That’s all you need to care about.

BTC devs estimated that you need $1000 fees per tx to pay for BTCs security in the future. Imagine how many people are able to do that to manage their channels even just a few times a year....
Saylor, btw, expect to pay 300000$ per tx and he is fine with that, he and his buddies move millions. So you see the problem with high fees.
Then there is the time constraint. 2500tx per 10 min block means that if you want to onboard the global population onto LN with a single tx, it would take 60 years. 60 years! of no other traffic but everyone just making a single tx to open a channel.
The Math does not math for BTC and any L2.

volatile = huge gains possible.
not volatile = big losses unlikely.
Why do you think that your fear is universial? Some people take risks, others don't.
But buying BTC close to ATH is not a low risk investment, so I don't know why you think it's low risk...

> cosplaying as number 1
Its starting to make sense now. Somehow, you feel that us using "Bitcoin" in our name is some type of fraud, duping new people into buying our bags.
I'm not sure what to say, other than you are not paying attention. Its been 8 years. The people here are Bitcoin OGs who have been in Bitcoin for a decade or more. The people who took over the project in 2017 and censored all debate got control of r/Bitcoin and we got r/btc. They banned discussion on r/Bitcoin and so this is the sub we were left with.
Bitcoin (ticker: BCH) is the real Bitcoin, and we don't censor or ban people who have different opinions. It doesn't matter what the price is or how much attention we have, what matters is if our network works, if it implements Bitcoin as intended, and if it contains the genesis block. And it does.
Bitcoin was created for a reason. That was the 2008 financial crisis, where the financial system failed, big banks were bailed out, and small banks failed and were consolidated. Bitcoin was intended to money that couldn't be defaulted on, whether through inflation or through a bank collapse. The BTC fork will not raise the block limit, and hence it is impossible for everyone to self custody. Hence, now there are exchanges and treasury companies with which people have accounts, and there are the same risks as before.
The reason BTC seams to have won over BCH is because all of the money was dumped into BTC to increase the market cap, because it doesn't fundamentally change anything and it breaks the original purpose for Bitcoin.
But it doesn't matter if BTC is 200 times more valuable than BCH right now. Because the original problem from 2008 still exists. Financial institutions are still insolvent. There is still too much debt. There comes a breaking point, where the system collapses. BTC will go down with the ship, because it doesn't work. Its unusable in a crisis. BCH does work. It will work in a crisis. It is the only thing that works while also maintaining the integrity of the ledger and carrying forward the genesis block.
The reason we don't censor people here is because we aren't threatened by people criticizing us, because ultimately it doesn't matter. BCH isn't built on popularity or market cap, its built on an idea.

Yes, with "today's" being the key word.
Also today, the sum that buys the annual mining of freshly released BTC is $19,000,000,000
Will this value still seek to buy up the available fresh supply by 2125? When every other satoshi is trapped in the balancesheet of the conglomerates and nations?
Except for potentially your great great grandchildrens bitcoin inheritance, of course.

Im reading here since few days. Its always “bitcoin” which referred to $BTC.
So BCash isn’t Bitcoin anymore? So when talking about bitcoin we refer to BtC and BCH is just what Bitcoin should have been?
So confused

dont know how. can i owned 1 BTC

He is best taking his BTC to prison with him. He can use it to pay Big Dave on D wing to stop him getting fucked in the shower

Fintech, maybe, but BTC I don't think so!
It was not email that killed the post office; it was FedEx & UPS doing the same job better, faster, cheaper.

Sorry sir but you are making some false assumptions. I just got paid an Invoice this week I'm BTC. Last month I bought a car with BTC. Thinking about listing my rental house in CA for BTC. I pay my streaming service monthly with BTC.
I give customers a 3% off if they pay with BTC instead of Credit Cards.
So don't go saying things that just aren't true.
There's definitely plenty of people using it for payments.

It’s a giant Ponzi,
I invest and use bitcoin but I understand that everyone ( most people) just wants to sell at a higher price.
For that too happen another person must buy at that intended price
The new guy is paying for my profit
and what happens if suddenly people lose interest in BTC the ponzi collapses

Total BTC hash rate jumped above 1.25 Zetahashes/s (daily average).
That's 1.25 \* 10^(21) Hashes/s & a double up from 1yr ago.

I was looking at some of the recent data and saw some really interesting things happening in the crypto space. It seems like for the first time in a while, two of the biggest players are heading in completely opposite directions.
A. Bitcoin's Institutional Ascent: A New Digital Gold
The cryptocurrency market is showing a clear split in how big money is being allocated. Bitcoin is cementing its position as a "digital gold," and the numbers are backing it up.
1. US spot Bitcoin ETFs just saw nearly $2.9 billion in inflows over a seven-day streak.
2. The total holdings of these ETFs are now a record 1.32 million BTC, accounting for 6.6% of Bitcoin's total market cap.
3. This institutional demand is outpacing new supply from mining by nearly nine times, creating serious upward pressure on the price.
B. Ethereum's Quiet Maturation and Institutional Outflows
Ethereum's story is a bit different. The network just went through a major technical upgrade (Pectra) that's supposed to make it more efficient and scalable. But institutional investors seem to be looking right past that.
1. As Bitcoin was seeing massive inflows, Ethereum ETFs experienced significant outflows, totaling over $341 million in a single week.
It seems like for many large investors, fundamental network improvements are secondary to the narrative and liquidity. They're seeing Bitcoin as a store of value, and that's all that seems to matter to them right now.
What's everyone's take on this? Is this a sign that for big money, Bitcoin's "digital gold" narrative is all that matters, or is there a bigger long-term play for Ethereum that institutional players aren't seeing yet?
P.S. I’ve been working on a research paper about a “Financial Intelligence Layer” to explain dynamics like this. It’s not ready yet, but if you're interested, let me know in the comments and I'll be in touch with a link.

A part of boomer wealth is in the form of the national debt and printing money they will never pay back, they'll all be gone.
Converting your fiat for BTC, in theory, circumvents that. You'll pay taxes, but you aren't part of the asset system that has over $30 trillion in debt *you and I* will pay, and the 16 year old working down at the supermarket.

Unless you’re a sophisticated investor the best gains are not made from quick, high leverage trades. That is dopamine trading. The best gains are made over time. That is why all those people who have made millions on BTC deserve the gains because they bought early and stuck it out when everyone else was selling. Buy BTC - lock it up for 10 years and you’ll make more than any of your leverage trades.

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End of November because the money needs to flow to buy stuff. Those Black Friday sales arent going to happen without people having a little more money in their accounts. At that point, game on towards Yuletide. Another rate cut this year and good Q4 postings in tech, the alt season will bleed over into ‘26.
As a sidebar, GTFO of BTC well before ‘27. About mid-27 BTC will crash so hard that Saylor’s tears will raise the oceans.

I dunno, personally I wouldn't risk buying into stocks and shares or BTC at this stage in the bull run, in a lump sum.
With a 3 year timeline you could be looking at coming out with the same money you put in - or worse.
Depends whether you can afford to take the risk of losing a significant percentage of your money.
If anything, waiting a year to buy things like BTC especially, it might be cheaper. But it depends on the repetition of cycle patterns.
But yeah, if you're ok with the risk, there's plenty of juicy options that others have suggested - you might be fine, things might just keep on growing.

> The only way BTC grows to billions is that at least 20-30% know how to use it and are able.
I loathe this argument, that bitcoin must be changed in order to facilitate adoption. Bitcoin does not need adoption, it already serves its purpose perfectly well.
In your case, just store your seed phrase in a safe place, and make sure that your children are able to get to it when you die. They'll figure it out.

Sell what? I would exchange my BTC for stuff I want to buy, but I would not exchange my BTC for worthless paper currency and keep my savings on that, it's way smarter to keep my savings in BTC and just buy what I need when I need it with my BTC.
BTC is my unit of savings and I do not recognize government currencies as valuable