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Bitcoin / Tether USD Jan 24 2024 42000.00 Put
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Unpopular opinion: Such "battles" are not really the deciding factor in the particular case of Monero. People with a genuine need to actually use a private crypto currency as a *currency* mostly won't use BTC, Zcash or whatever more or less by accident because very few Monero supporters show up there and "set the record straight".
Speculators are a whole different story however ... I say let them speculate with BTC or whatever :)

Absolutely agree. Not an expert, but the market is in trouble, not bc of AI bubble, but bc of the economy. Markets run on sentiment alone, point blank. If people have no faith in the market and actually tangible companies, they have even less in crypto.
People are afraid of AI as much as people have lost faith in government and the economy and there’s so many huge indicators showing that. When people are afraid of the economy and government the market crashes, it has nothing to do with fundamentals and earnings of a company at all, just public sentiment. Feb 21st not a single thing about a company changed, just the public’s opinion and the market took a big dip fast… every company was exactly the same, but that stuff doesn’t mean a thing when people feel hopeless about the economy. Spring was 1 catalyst, we have 2 dozen building.
-Potential war
-Tariffs
-Inflation
-Bad job reports
-Talk of impeachment again
-Government infighting to the point the president is saying senators actions should be punishable by death
-OpenAI bad reports
-Healthcare premiums rising by 3x
-20 million losing Medicaid that won’t replace it bc history shows us they don’t & use the ER for emergencies. The millions of jobs and trillions of dollars created and made to take care of those 20 million Medicaid recipients is going away.
-Longest shit down in history that’s only paused for a little over a month
-CEOs of healthcare companies and political activists being assassinated
-Podcasters that distrust government, politicians, and their economy just became the largest in the world… which shows where most ppls minds are
-Fear of an AI bubble
-Average Americans cannot afford basic needs, especially starting next month due to changes in healthcare. These are millions of workers that pay into the market and retirement that no longer can use all excess money for that or for buying wants that help companies….
It’s bad. This is isn’t spring and not a panic sell. People are hopeless at the moment and have lost all faith.
The market drops and BTC definitely does in my opinion. But hey I’m no expert as I said already, just observing the actual world and economy we live in and listing events that have happened the past few months… good luck to all.

They’re trying to margin call Saylor, force him to liquidate to take his BTC.

Do you realize that most that you know about tulips situation is just Western propaganda?
Read Dutch sources - almost nothing they told you about that "bubble" is true.
Yeah, some idiots gambled too much on tulips futures but that the same situation with BTC which became hijacked coin after IBIT options were launched.

Coincidence they started allowing BTC/Eth as collateral requirements last month? 🤔

> Every cycle has that moment where the overlooked, under-the-radar coins suddenly wake up, and it usually hints that broader sentiment is shifting from pure speculation to actual value hunting.
No, it typically means that the market is bored with the little or negative price action with BTC and large-cap alts, so it starts looking for new narrative slots. This time the narrative is "privacy & old-school projects". Old coins with very little liquidity like ERG (which yes, is a wonderful project, but also essentially dead) are easy targets, because easily pumped and dumped.
> Not saying it’s guaranteed moon time or anything, but if this really were the end of the cycle, you wouldn’t see this kind of across-the-board strength in coins that haven’t had attention in months. It looks way more like the early part of a proper alt rotation than the late-stage blowoff some people are calling. In my opinion, the real mania hasn’t even started yet.
In reality, this is precisely an end-of-cycle dynamics. We will be seeing many coins randomly pumping and then dumping over the next weeks/months as BTC trades sideways, but in a slow downtrend. Some people will make money from this, as it always happens, but most people will get burned chasing pumps.

I'd be just fine with $600k BTC by 2030

Quoting Munger in regard to holding crypto is funny.
I only add to BTC and SOL personally, not sell

If BTC went to 101k all these shorts were covered already, so there's no "even more".
Also, this is hopium. 0,5% of marketcap is nothing.

I definitely don’t think BTC is a scam / I have never said it is a scam?
Seriously you might need reading lessons.
BTC is not a scam, and it is open source so there is no ambiguity regarding its technology. Hence why I support it / encourage adoption

Bitcoin is going 70-80% of ATH, which is around 35 to 40K.
Sell now for 4000. use the frist 2000 for what ever it is. Put in the rest 2000 when BTC nears 45K. You will have 4x in 2028.

As the market matures and barring game changing events like quantum computing, the days of extreme returns will be over. It will be slow and steady gains. However, we are not quite there yet. There is still room for some rapid growth. Especially in light of QC.
Just as a hedge, I put $500.00 into ALGO. If you do the calculations from way back in 2009-2010, that about of money would have turned into hundred of millions today. ALGO is “supposed” to be QC proof. At least that’s what I am hearing. So why not bet on that as a long shot?
I did the same with Cardano. Just on the noise I was hearing. Most likely it will go nowhere but if it overcomes its manifest problems then it too can explode.
I dumped much much larger amount of money into SOL. Why? Because one can tell how mature a market is becoming by who jumps in. With the five or six new SOL ETF’s achieving some huge inflows in very large chunks, that tells me that there is institutional adoption. The western union deal is another indicator. Could this be massive market manipulation? Yep… but I’m betting on the fundamentals. And the fundamentals for SOL are solid.
You can take long shot risks. Just don’t bet the farm on them. Think about BTC and what $500us dropped into it in 2010 would be today. Take a couple of these risks. Then find an alt coin you can get behind with better chances and more upside. All of this being done with no more than 10-20% of your portfolio. The rest keep safe and let it grow slow. Rome wasn’t built in a day. However in 2,000 years of history it had some HUGE jumps. Get in on the ground floor. Let it ride and you might get lucky.

Seeing this meme with $BTC @ >$80,000.
$BTC has come a long way

BTC strength is not because it's super fast. Some of the current payment channels are theoretically faster. 
BTC has fees. No fees is not it's strength. 
Kyc is exactly why people prefer crypto. 
Consortium of big banks is exactly why BTC has value.
BTC is a gold with money flow capabilities. Not other way around. It's not a payment channel with gold like properties. 

For those with an IQ below 90, BTC is backed by the same US Dollar.

I locked a good profit, no regrets.I know there’s a chance BTC go back to $110,000 levels and maybe reach a new ATH before the actual bear start, but I also know that we are gonna get some good discounts and I need dry powder for the 45k-55k levels! Am I trippin? Maybe.

i bought around 3200-4200 range. half a million in. no more cash to buy more this time. =). Bought and kept BTC at 9k - 29k. My gut feeling is that we will see lower price, maybe a bounce back in a year

Guten Morgen zusammen, hier die heutige MSWettervorhersage:
* [Schatzkistenerträge](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y) sind **blassgrün**, mit **+0.10%** (Kurs: 4.067).
* [💦🦡 Zukünfte](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/%40ND.1) sind **grün**, mit **+0.79%** (Kurs: 24,497.25).
* [🕵️ Zukünfte](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/%40SP.1) sind **grün**, mit **+0.55%** (Kurs: 6,656.75).
* [DAU Johannes Zukünfte](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/%40DJ.1) sind **grün**, mit **+0.25%** (Kurs: 46,436.0).
* [🐘 2000 Zukünfte](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/%40TFS.1) sind **grün**, mit **+0.49%** (Kurs: 2,386.9).
* [🦡 Zukünfte](https://www.investing.com/indices/germany-30-futures) sind **grün**, mit **+0.82%** (Kurs: 23,327.8).
* [Ⓜ🦡️ Zukünfte](https://www.investing.com/indices/germany-mid-cap-50-futures) sind **rot**, mit **-0.88%** (Kurs: 28,255.0).
* [🇪🇺🦯 Zukünfte](https://www.investing.com/indices/eu-stocks-50-futures) sind **grün**, mit **+0.74%** (Kurs: 5,557.0).
* [🧗🔥 Zukünfte](https://www.investing.com/indices/hong-kong-40-futures) sind **grün**, mit **+0.68%** (Kurs: 25,714.5).
* [☑🦈 Zukünfte](https://www.investing.com/indices/japan-225-futures) sind **grün**, mit **+0.37%** (Kurs: 48,970.0).
* ˙(І˙5ᘔ5'8 :sɹn⋊) **%6ᘔ˙І+** ʇᴉɯ '**un̤ɹƃ ƃᴉʇɟɐ̤ɹʞ** ʇsᴉ [00ᘔ XSⱯ ɹǝᗡ](https://www.investing.com/indices/aus-200)
* [🔥🛢 Zukünfte](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/@LCO.1) sind **geringfügig grün**, mit **+0.08%** (Kurs: $62.61).
* [🥇 Zukünfte](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/%2540GC.1) sind **rot**, mit **-0.91%** (Kurs: $4,042.2).
* [🌎💨 Zukünfte](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/%2540NG.1) sind **mächtig rot**, mit **-1.31%** (Kurs: $4.52).
* [CO2 Zertifikate](https://www.onvista.de/derivate/Index-Zertifikate/158135999-CU3RPS-DE000CU3RPS9) machte/machten Probleme. 😭.
* [Der 🦯🪙 kurs](https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/BTC.CM) ist **gesunken**. Der Preis liegt bei **$87,005.0** was einer Veränderung von **-0.55%** zum Vortag entspricht.
* [Das Wetter in Dachsenhausen](https://www.wetter.com/deutschland/dachsenhausen/DE0001902.html) soll heute **Wechselnd bewölkt und Wechselnd bewölkt, wenig Sonne** werden.
Und natürlich die Miesmuschel: !mm Wird heute ein grüner Tag?
*^^Dieser ^^Wetterbericht [^^wurde ^^automatisiert ^^erstellt](https://github.com/m3adow/mswetterbericht) ^^und ^^ist ^^ohne ^^Unterschrift ^^gültig.*

**Is MicroStrategy a Fortress or a House of Cards? The math behind Michael Saylor’s $60B bet.**
Everyone is asking the same question: "Can Michael Saylor survive a 90% Bitcoin crash?" Saylor says yes. The market is skeptical. But looking at the balance sheet, the answer isn't what you think.
We dove deep into the numbers of the MicroStrategy machine. Here is the reality vs. the narrative:
❌ **The Myth:** "MSTR faces a margin call if BTC drops."
✅ **The Reality:** Most of MSTR’s $8.2B debt is unsecured convertible notes. There are no price-based covenants. Saylor won't be forced to sell a single Satoshi tomorrow, even if Bitcoin hits $15k.
⚠️ **The Real Danger:** The "Debt Wall" of 2027-2029. The risk isn't liquidation; it's **refinancing**. Between 2027 and 2029, billions in debt mature.
• If Bitcoin is high? The debt converts to equity. Genius move.
• If Bitcoin is low? Creditors want cash. The financing window closes.
MicroStrategy is a time-leveraged bet. It’s not about the **Price** of Bitcoin today; it’s about the **Time** it takes to recover.
We analyzed the liquidity, the cash flows ($689M/year needed just to keep the lights on), and the "Paper Fortress" structure.
📖 **Read the full analysis to understand why MSTR is immune to volatility, but vulnerable to time:** [**The Paper Fortress? Michael J. Saylor's Strategy Facing the Trial by Fire**](https://sylvainsaurel.substack.com/p/the-paper-fortress-michael-j-saylors)

Took profits Nov 24 to Jan 25, sold about half of position.
Still in the green, average BTC price is 45k.