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Yeah, you're right, it was a huge issue.  My point is, though, you stack that plus high energy prices, which does flow into the data center thing. But energy prices are also diesel and gas. Plus corruption In TX weed under draconian criminal punishment. Plus brutality of ICE that was way over what most republicans were wanting. Plus the president of the united states being extremely unpopular. Plus cozying up to russia and seemingly acting against Ukraine. Plus a war nobody asked for. I don't think this was a single issue. If this was one or two issues, then I think we would have seen a blue wave, not a blue meteor.

I started at in 2005 at 35 and am now 56. I am jealous of people starting at 18, but 35 is nowhere close to too late. :) I started out in high growth companies until the great recession happened and my portfolio went down by 60%... I (and my wife) said we do not want to go through that again and after a year of research, switched to high quality dividend growth investing to achieve great total returns with less volatility. So far so good :) Growing dividends are powered by growing earnings. Find companies that have histories of consistently growing earnings (and dividends) through thick and thin. These companies tend to have durable business models. I am far more interested in seeing a chart of a companies earnings than a chart of stock price and can usually tell within 30 seconds if I am interested in the company. I love companies that have earnings growth of \~10%+ over 5-10 and 15 year periods in a nice upwards-to-the-right earnings chart. IF the earnings chart is a saw tooth and the teeth are deep, I know to take a pass. I manage my portfolio to grow earnings 10% per year (with new money and dividends re-invested) which I have done every year since 2009. I use back of the napkin math to add the current dividend to the 5 year dividend growth rate to ensure a company is in the ballpark of helping me meet that goal. People say that when you are younger you can take more risk, but I also urge people the think that the first money you invest will have the longest to compound, so treat that first money as precious and don't invest it recklessly. A few example companies : ABBV, ABT, ADP, AFL, AMGN, AMP, ATO, AVGO, AWR, AXP, BLK, CMI, CSL, CSX, DGX, GWW, HD, HSY, ICE, ITW, KR, LHX, LMT, LOW, MCD, etc ...

Most Americans don't give a shit about ICE. All Americans really care about is the economy period. If inflation was down, Republicans would have won.

I can think of more than three off the top of my head involving weapons fired and no assault on the ICE agents, so wherever you’re getting your information from is wildly inaccurate.

no they were not. It was because of ICE, Iran war, and folks are sick of trump. Period. Only this sub thinks its about economy and are wrong. Inflation, maybe? not the economy. Trumps economy has been AI-inflated bubble and is "just fine" according to him

Dude, he just lost the House and the Senate. He used that control to pass, among other things, the Big Bill. He has lost so much power in the past week it's not even funny. Congress can literally countermand his EOs, such as the Tariff orders, they can cut funding to ICE, they can keep him so busy having to respond to their actions that he gets distracted and fails to actually use his power. The one thing you can be sure of is Trump has full pardons for everyone in his family pre-written and ready to go, plus Musk. That's the one thing left he can probably still do and, if we're being totally honest - Congress and the Senate should ignore those anyway. Trump needed the house and senate to do a great deal, they've passed over 100 different bills since Trump got elected, they have approved countless servants and dolts into positions of power. Trump now can't get his people approved for the Supreme Court, any Government office, etc. He can't line the government with his cronies set on doing things like what Musk and RFJ Jr have been doing now.

Yep. I’d give up every gain this decade to reverse every atrocity of Epstein and ICE. Hell, I’d give up the gains for justice for those crimes against humanity.

München ist von Augsburg mit ICE auch sehr gut erreichbar.

Out of 10.000.000 ICE interactions, only 3 have involved weapons being fired. That’s 0.00003%. And all three interactions involved ICE agents being assaulted.

It's not that deep. Sure, some of it was prob data centers, but Texas flipping was almost entirely because of diesel prices and ICE raids.

Immigration control and gas and food prices mostly. Starts to get sketchy when ICE is coming for your neighbors and not the criminals they promised people

Yeah. It's all a game to these assholes. They couldn't send ICE to the polls because no weapons allowed, so they sent federal prosecutors instead. (Which is still illegal as hell but they knew they could get away with it.) The whole premise of P2025 and Catholic integrism is manipulating government from the inside to effect the changes they want. It can't be a historical site anymore, so he calls it a monument. The maga elites and techbros are just 4chan dipshits who grew up.

Bro, no one I know gives 2 fucks about data centers in the Texas Triangle where all the Democrats live. In rural Texas where it's all Republicans it's more of an issue if anything. Abbott is a grifter, he was just going to pause until after the election. I'm sure he paused anything that would remotely possibly prevent him from winning of which data centers are a "hot button issue". It's really the farthest thing from what could be prescribed as the main reason Texans voted blue. Texans don't like the Iran war, we don't like high gas prices, we don't like ICE a whole lot either. Data centers are like way below all of that for the vast majority.

The ICE contract is from 2011 though, and was given by Obama.

The work with ICE is going to be a major problem for a lot of Democrats, even more moderate ones

First of all, ICE? How is ICE related to the economy in any way? Trump has been in office almost two years and the markets were great. You think it’s a coincidence that this happened two days after the election?

Tariffs, ICE, and Iran are TERRIBLE for businesses and TERRIBLE for the entire economy. This narrative that Republicans are consistently better on the economy has been demolished!

Yes.. know several leaning R's (non maga) who voted for gas prices and ignored Project 2025, his tariffs, DOGE bullshit, the ICE extremism, Epstein, taking all guardrails off AI on day 1, pardoning Jan 6th goons, pay for access and self enrichment, etc. They all danced around the subject or went quiet as it got worse. They watched in horror as he went crazy. Bunch of them either voted D or protest voted/stayed home.

I agree brother. Many liked what he said to get into office even though the no tax on tips, overtime, and social security benefitted me very little, it was this BSC stuff he did after he got into office that upset the apple cart. Iran war, massive and variable tariffs, renaming things, ICE goon squads, none of that was on anyone's bingo card except his.

Caring about no other social issue than your own financial well-being is deplorable; doing so at a time when civil liberties are being stripped away, a lawless, drifting president shits on the Constitution, and ICE agents are murdering American citizens in the streets is beyond deplorable.

You're talking about 1 senator and handful in the house...they aren't going to be leading the charge on passing anything. But most likely the normal republicans realize they can be normal because they actually can be ousted, Trump is done in 2 years, and they want a job after 2 years. It's on the dems to pass common sense laws and not defund ICE entirely or something stupid.

Facts are, the vast majority of voters don't actually know anyone directly effected by those things, but almost everybody is effected by gas prices. If votes drove by two or three cases of ICE blackbagging people on their way to work everyday, the way they drive past two or three gas stations on their way to work every day, they'd probably care more about it.

**on bigotry:** haha. Don't try to gaslight. I saw more bigoted GOP ads than not this cycle. **immigration:** I said ICE. Did not say anything about immigration. Would be a different conversation if ICE would refrain from murdering U.S. citizens, teargassing and harassing citizens expressing their first amendment rights, detaining people in the country legally, and trying to gaslight as bad you just did when it's all caught on video.

The Dems first move should be to reverse the majority of the spending in the OBBA.  More prisons being sold at 10x asking price. Nope. ICE can go back to its old budget and figure it out. More money to replace spent military equipment. Nope. Find the money in your existing budget or figure out how to make stuff for less money.