ICE
Intercontinental Exchange Inc.
stock NYSE

Sure I get you, but you are missing my point: despite being historically pricier than equivalent lower quality build cars, they were still not comparable to premium models; you can't just look at the interior materials, the price, and go "yeah they're comparable", since one car has a traditional, well-understood engine made of thousands of metal pieces, while the other one is an experimental EV with an experimental charging network and experimental everything.
The price trend for Teslas has thus been going down, and BMWs has been going up, further contrasting their different target market segments.
In short, comparing a Tesla to a regular ICE based BMW (or similar), at any point in history, is just wrong. It's just not the right comparison to make.

It's important to remember that MSRP means absolutely nothing in the ICE car market in China - all ICE cars are being sold at horrific discounts of 30 to 50+%. And even with those discounts, they selling poorly compared to EVs. i guess the data shown above is taking into account the massive local discounts.
eg: base Merc C-class should be 304,600 RMB MSRP, but local dealerships data (which varies by city), show it's actually being sold by dealerships for just 194,600 RMB (US$28k): [https://car.yiche.com/benchicji-2364/](https://car.yiche.com/benchicji-2364/)
https://preview.redd.it/ymz89nmwwyah1.png?width=1872&format=png&auto=webp&s=b56e11abeb1e48cb4dfa58c0860699ed72994e97

BMW are dogshit. My i3 was sold without the brain dead moronic fucking salesman mentioning it had no fast charging (it was 2014) cause he probably was clueless about EVs. And then their shitty battery warranty made sure no batteries got upgraded. So I was stuck with a slow charging limited range POS when Tesla was making 200 miles + fast charging practical EVs.
Also the original EV engine frame on the BMW i3 was plastic (WTF!!!) and they refused to change it for a newer one, quoting me 5k instead. In Europe it was a recall.
The A/C is also shit with NO FILTER in case it craps out and some BMW i3 owners report the car becoming an expensive paperweight if the AC blows and sends metal shrapnel in the battery cooling system. Being quoted 25k for the repair by the money grabbing dealers.
NEVER EVER BUY A CAR FROM BMW. Ever!!!
Especially an EV since it's an ICE company that absolutely hates EVs and has the record to match.
Their customer service and warranty are crap for all cars too. Just check the forums.

# AWAS HAVING AN ICE CUBE 🧊 IN MY MOUTH AND LOOKED AT MY $MU POSITION, I GUL AND ACCIDENTALLY DEEP THROATED MYSELF.....
**FAKKKKKKK**

Ola electric Roadster X+ 9.1 kWh, reducing discount .. because massive sell number ..
the company said the 4680 Bharat Cell-powered Roadster X+ 9.1 kWh will now be priced at Rs 1,69,999, Up from Rs 1,29,000. ..
Recently also received Pli certificate…
Mean save 13 to 18% cost for Ola ..
Already contribute Roadster X+ 15% Ola electric total order ..
Some state Roadster 50% above market share ..
Delhi government Ev policy also boost sell
Because 50k subsidy 🎉
No road tax ..
E bike no compedition….
The company attributed the reduction to rapid economies of scale at its Gigafactory and deep vertical integration of its indigenously developed battery technology.
As cell production ramped up, cost efficiencies improved, allowing the company to pass on benefits directly to customers.
The company added that sales of the Roadster X+ 9.1 kWh will shift to a limited purchase window model, with units available in specific time-bound slots and quantities.
"As production of our 4680 Bharat Cell scales, we are able to unlock significant cost efficiencies and pass them on directly to customers.
The response to the Roadster has been extremely strong - the bike demand during our #EndICEAge campaign has grown more than 5X, and this new pricing makes long range electric mobility even more accessible. To accelerate India's transition away from ICE and oil, we are doubling down on batteries and domestic manufacturing,"

What's the annual fee for exemption from ICE raids?

Not once has the conversation of privacy and our Constitutional rights come out of this psycho's mouth.
He is still trying to push the pay to play model and we are already paying 32 thousand dollars a month per camera to invade my privacy.
AI is still not reliable or consistent and has proven to be dangerous with it's flippant sharing of data with anyone in "law enforcement". Shit we have cops here who are taking to data to stock women and have sent thousands of files to the idiots in ICE.

It is already out of hand. It warms my heart when I see a flocc camera destroyed. I hope that becomes a thing.

ICE ❤️ their Tazers. Got to protect the billionaires!

Trump will pardon thousands of his minions. If the Supreme Ct. upholds the pardons, we are in trouble. It means the Prez can order ICE to use as much force as needed.

ICE shot at a car yesterday morning about 2 minutes down the road from my house.
Lemmmmeeeee outta heeeeere

Bought ICE at 124 yesterday

Anyone looking into ICE? It seems to have stabilzed in the 120s. Going long might make more sense.

A few people?  It was the prevailing sentiment on here.  That along with empty world cup stadiums and ICE detaining fans. 
Reddit is decoupled from reality 

Eigentlich würde ich ja sagen Deutschland FIK.
Aber ich fahre vom Kundenbesuch in HH im ICE nach Hause, ich sitze seit 4 Stunden im reservierten Sitz, im Abteil mit Klima, die Funktioniert und habe Internet.
Hat die Ansprache vom Fritz doch was gebracht?
Heute endlich der Tag für deutsche ~~Bums~~ Premiumstöcker!

€MBG
$VOW3
€VNA

Read between the lines of the jobs report: employment in percent is stable but people are dropping out of the job market. That's Mexicans being deported. They're using ICE to get their rate cut lmfao

The range on a Prius Prime is north of 600 miles if fully charged and with a full tank of gas. That's bonkers for either an EV or an ICE.

Idk. In my Cybertruck it’s so comfortable and quiet and takes little effort to drive. Feels like I’m sitting at home relaxing. Tesla semi is probably the same and much more comfortable than an ICE semi. Probably no need to check air brakes, change gears, etc. 

Keine vollständige Performance-Historie, aber ein paar Wasserstände und Jahres-Entwicklungen:
> Zum Jahresende 2018 waren rund 4,3 Mrd. Euro des Fondsvermögens investiert. Dieser Betrag wurde zur Jahresmitte 2019 auf rund 9,1 Mrd. Euro verdoppelt. Die durchschnittliche Wertentwicklung auf das schrittweise aufgebaute Fondsvermögen beträgt 6,2% pro Jahr.
https://www.kenfo.de/fileadmin/user_upload/dokumente/20190723__kenfo-pressemitteilung_finanzierung-der-kerntechnischen-entsorgung-erfolgreich-angelaufen.pdf, Juli 2019
> Positive Wertentwicklung auf Finanzanlagen in 2020 in Höhe
von 8,3% [...]
> „Wir haben das schwierige Corona-Jahr 2020 geschäftlich mit einem guten HGB-Ergebnis von rund 120 Mio. Euro und mit einem sehr soliden Anlageergebnis von 8,3% abgeschlossen. Allein in den ersten 5 Monaten in diesem Jahr hat der KENFO auf sein investiertes Vermögen einen Wertzuwachs von 4,4 % erzielt.“
https://www.kenfo.de/fileadmin/user_upload/pressemitteilungen/kenfo_pressemitteilung_kenfo_schliesst_corona_jahr_2020_mit__plus.pdf, Juni 2021
> Laut Jahresbilanz 2022, so der Bericht von „Report Mainz“, hat der Fonds bei Staatsanleihen von Industrienationen 16,5 Prozent an Wert verloren, bei Aktien und sogenannten REITs (börsennotierten Immobilien-Investmentgesellschaften) 15,7 Prozent. Damit hat der Fonds bei seinen Aktien-Investments schlechter abgeschnitten als der Dax mit minus 12,3 Prozent und MSCI World mit 12,8 Prozent. [...]
> Die Benchmark des Fonds (aggregiert aus den Inidzes MSCI All Country World Investable Market, MSCI Europe Investable Market und ICE BofA Global Broad Market EUR hedged) habe im selben Zeitraum schlechter abgeschnitten – so dass der Kenfo demgegenüber sogar eine Outperformance erwirtschaftet habe.
https://www.private-banking-magazin.de/portfolio-aktien-kenfo-verliert-mehr-als-3-milliarden-euro/, Juni 2023
> „Unser Portfolio hat eine leicht bessere Wertentwicklung als das Referenz-Portfolio erzielt und das bei einem im Vergleich deutlich geringeren Risiko. Auch die spezialisierten Asset Management-Gesellschaften, die wir beauftragt haben, generierte einen spürbaren Mehrwert. Dadurch erzielten wir in Summe eine um 1,03% höhere Rendite als unsere Benchmarks“, erläuterte Mikus. Mit einer Gesamtrendite von 11,1% übertraf der KENFO die für das Stiftungsziel notwendige Rendite um fast sieben Prozentpunkte.
https://www.kenfo.de/fileadmin/user_upload/pressemitteilungen/kenfo_pressemitteilung_ausgewogene_anlagestrategie_des_kenfo_zahlt_sich_aus_03072024.pdf, Juli 2024

ALDI also being put in charge of ICE.

ICE raids several homes for having 7 layer dip