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Exactly, and did ANY of the Leftists protest and treat him & ICE like the antiChrist? Nope. All these freaks have major TDS.

I mean aftermarket parts are a dying breed.
We’re talking EV’s now not ICE cars, they’re just not comparable. Even then, a huge portion of modern vehicle components don’t have aftermarket ECU’s.
It’s not a Tesla problem, it’s just a different platform. It’s not an “end to end” encryption problem, so much as a proprietary code problem.
And yeah I get it it’s annoying to have to buy OEM parts, but the entire auto industry has been moving this direction for some time. At least Tesla isn’t requiring complicated commercial contracts, insane spends, and complex cables and adaptors.
Try and get your BMW to tell you what’s wrong, or log onto it remotely and wirelessly to change parameters, or just use the screen to fully redeploy firmware to swapped modules.
Yes it’s OEM but fuck it’s way easier man.

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I’ve owned all kinds of cars and people whine about electric cars and costs, seem to forget a few things. One, computers are in every car and have been for a long time. So unless you got something pre 80s you’re running an ECU in your car.
I’ve had three electric cars and they all cost more to insure, not just Tesla. Here’s what I found out after five years of ownership of three types. ICE, hybrid, and electric. You’ll spend a fraction of the cost in an electric car. It’s not even close so forget all the comparisons that keep trying to sell you bullshit.
As a former mechanic I also can tell you maintenance is going to be very low. Meaning on the Tesla or any electric, the only thing I had to do in a year’s time was tire rotations and one bushing on the suspension on the Tesla, which was free. On my Toyota Corolla hybrid, which I love, it’s close but still got to do all the oil changes and regular maintenance. It’s synthetic and costs more. And that’s a Corolla Hybrid. I also had a Honda Accord Hybrid and it was close to but the maintenance costs just eat it up.
The last vehicle is a jeep and well it’s expensive to run. So drive it when necessary not as a freaking status symbol or by myself if I can help it.
I charge at home which costs me pennies on the dollar and laugh my ass off whenever I see someone coal rolling in a diesel. I’m like that just costs you twenty bucks and you killed couple birds and trees to do it dumb ass. Meanwhile I can go all over the states now for virtually nothing. A trip from the north east to Florida and then New Orleans cost me about little over 200 in a Tesla. I just did it. And you can math it all you want. Your math ain’t going to add up. It’s a fraction of the cost. And that’s comparing it to a hybrid. My Corolla is cheap too but still not close in overall costs.
Oh and if you think your ICE is going to run once the electric goes out, lol. Maybe until you run the tank dry. Good luck after that. Better learn how to start sucking the hose like Road Warrior or figuring out how to manually pump because your gas pumps run on…you guessed it, electric. I have solar battery back up. I can still charge to get me about three hundred miles. The same as your tank of gas.
And there are no more mechanics for newer cars. Proprietary parts changers. You can still earn a living working on older cars.
As far as the costs conversations that keep happening. It just not going to be cheaper. You can add the higher insurance and parts but it isn’t going to math overall, I know, I live it everyday. If you can figure it out, good luck!

> ICE cars don't have a lot of critical points of failure? That's news.
I didn't say that. You interpreted it that way.
>ICE cars don't have electronics systems that can render them inoperable for bullshit reasons?
Pretty sure if the screen on my head unit breaks, I can still adjust the mirrors. Unlike a Tesla.

That's cool, but there aren't many cars left that don't have ECMs and the start of all the electronic bullshit we're dealing with today and ICE cars have way more points of failure in the powertrain that will in fact need it towed to a mechanic.

Its a matter of time. I already admitted there would be few left on the road compared to ICE cars, but there will be collectors that replace everything given the time to keep the car running thanks to a handful of nerds. The 2100's Jay Leno will have a running Model Y in the collection

ICE cars don't have a lot of critical points of failure? That's news. ICE cars don't have electronics systems that can render them inoperable for bullshit reasons?

> you may have been pieces of shit, but they were pieces of shit you could fix yourself.
Don't forget single point of failure. With modern ICE, its ability to run was generally mutually exclusive to its ability to run electronics. For example, if my multimedia screen on the dash breaks, I'm still able to drive the car. Whereas the newest Model Y so many things run only through the central touchscreen including shifting. There is a back-up where you press a button for the drive mode on near the rearview mirror but it doesn't really change my point in how Tesla has a lot of critical points of failure that can make the car undriveable.

THE ICE CREAM MADE THE POWER COME BACK

Power is out from light rain. Mostly wind I think. MY ICE CREAM

Yes, modern ICE's, past \~5y are also a pain in the ass, a lot less signed binaries, more repairable but also a mess.

I wonder how many ICE vehicles will see 30 years, considering how much the electronics are integrated.
In my few years old EV, I'd say as long as I can get the infotainment and battery, I'm probably fine. It'll depend if a non-OEM supplier for batteries happen.
In the few years old non-ICE, infotainment is also a weakness, but no battery.
In my decades-old vehicles, I'm doing better. Can get expensive for a few things. But the head unit is just a head unit.
In my very old vehicles, I can still find the damnedest parts these days. I'm just going to assume 50 years ago, the cost of setting up equipment and designing slightly different parts wasn't worth it, so there's a lot of weird overlapping compatibility between models that makes it worthwhile to reproduce and sell still.

Without taxation, there is no military, border patrol, ICE etc and no federal government which I am fine with. hOWEVER, there is also no Social Security safety nets, no Medicare, Veterans support, etc which I paid paid for.

the charging issue is no different than EV’s on uber. EV market share is growing so ICE vehicles not gonna win that point in the long run. plus tesla has a more vested interest to route their vehicles towards charging stations when they need to charge compared to uber not knowing their drivers gas/charge status

No. This is much more dangerous than that. Trump and his tech fascist bros hate America and humanity in general. The tech billionaires are pushing this. They wish to enslave you through control over ever facet of your life. This is Theil. Project 2025. This shit is all spelled out. Your civil rights are dissolving in real time. Plainteir has been used by ICE since 2017, using AI to build a dossier on every "illegal" individual. And if that's what you voted for, youre next stupid.

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