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No, not like oil and gas. You realize there’s a difference between commodities and differentiated products right? With commodities the product is identical, so you simply buy from whoever’s cheapest, as a result, commodities are very competitive industries that strive for maximum efficiency, all subsidies do in that case is make it cheaper for consumers, if one subsidized oil company gets lazy and their efficiency drops, no one will buy their oil and go to another efficient company who’s also subsidized, and the reality is we’re still going to need a lot of fucking oil even if we transition as fast as we can.
Now when you take the auto industry, an oligopoly with products that are dissimilar, like an ev vs an ICE, there is no default “cheapest option”, you try to make a unique product at a price people are willing to pay relative to the rest of the market, the cost of your product is a direct result of your products design and supply chain, so when you subsidize EV’s but not ICE vehicles, you essentially allow automakers to get away with making vehicles that aren’t actually cost competitive with ICE vehicles because the subsidies make up the difference, do you see the problem here?

Are you implying they're not just bad at making EVs, but also bad at making ICE cars profitably?

have you even been to london, very small groups of perpetrators, but most people are good, and its a very diverse city. also as someone else stated, imperial has a lot of international students, so you're unlikely to feel any discrimination there. trump is also not better at all, with what we've seen with ICE and law enforcement in general.

Some of the concerns for the charging infrastructure haven't kept up with reality, Most population centers are well equipped to handle demand particularly since Tesla stations have been made available. Most owners charge at home and many larger gas stations, public facilities, hotels and apartment completes have been adding charging stations. The political climate has downplaying the benefits and demand has suffered. Europe has been able to extend their energy concerns because of their continued alternative investments. Granted that won't last long but it does demonstrate that under the right leadership alternative energy could dramatically accelerate here as well.
The downsides are still there. An EV is more expensive than a similar ICE particularly since the loss of the credits. But the cost of ownership is a small fraction of and ICE or even a hybrid which more than offsets the price differential. The manufacturing complexity and resulting costs of an EV, other than battery costs are much lower than an ICE.
One of the larger challenges we have today is energy. The current politics is making a case for fossil fuels but its just a matter of time before the realization returns that it needs to be supported by alternatives. If I look at some of the moves over the last week I am planning to jump back in,

Außerdem bekommst du kostenlose ICE Tickets, auch für private Zwecke.
Wenn du 12 Monate machst bekommst du potentiell einen Führerschein dazu den du während dem Dienst absolvierst (wenn du für deinen Aufgabenbereich ein Fahrzeug brauchst), beziehungsweise bis zu 3500€ Zuschuss zum Führerschein machen.
Und Unterstützung bei Umbildung für zivile Zwecke. Praktisch ein Stipendium was dein Studium deutlich erleichtert. Inklusive vollem Bafög kannst du sogar ohne Kredit an einer Privatuni studieren oder hast ein ziemlich gutes Einkommen für einen Student.

Dass die Demokraten schlechter dastehen als die reps, die orange und ICE ist auch ne leistung

Regardless of the outcome, a lot of people stopped (myself included) stopped shopping at Home Depot because of their collaboration with ICE. If they maintained revenue over time, it's likely because prices have become inflated due to bad fiscal policy and Americans continuing to spend like there's no recession coming. I'll shop at a local hardware store, or if I need to, Lowe's.

No, not like oil and gas. You realize there’s a difference between commodities and differentiated products right? With commodities the product is identical, so you simply buy from whoever’s cheapest, as a result, commodities are very competitive industries that strive for maximum efficiency, all subsidies do in that case is make it cheaper for consumers, if one subsidized oil company gets lazy and their efficiency drops, no one will buy their oil and go to another efficient company who’s also subsidized, and the reality is we’re still going to need a lot of fucking oil even if we transition as fast as we can.
Now when you take the auto industry, an oligopoly with products that are dissimilar, like an ev vs an ICE, there is no default “cheapest option”, you try to make a unique product at a price people are willing to pay relative to the rest of the market, the cost of your product is a direct result of your products design and supply chain, so when you subsidize EV’s but not ICE vehicles, you essentially allow automakers to get away with making vehicles that aren’t actually cost competitive with ICE vehicles because the subsidies make up the difference, do you see the problem here?

Are you implying they're not just bad at making EVs, but also bad at making ICE cars profitably?

have you even been to london, very small groups of perpetrators, but most people are good, and its a very diverse city. also as someone else stated, imperial has a lot of international students, so you're unlikely to feel any discrimination there. trump is also not better at all, with what we've seen with ICE and law enforcement in general.

Some of the concerns for the charging infrastructure haven't kept up with reality, Most population centers are well equipped to handle demand particularly since Tesla stations have been made available. Most owners charge at home and many larger gas stations, public facilities, hotels and apartment completes have been adding charging stations. The political climate has downplaying the benefits and demand has suffered. Europe has been able to extend their energy concerns because of their continued alternative investments. Granted that won't last long but it does demonstrate that under the right leadership alternative energy could dramatically accelerate here as well.
The downsides are still there. An EV is more expensive than a similar ICE particularly since the loss of the credits. But the cost of ownership is a small fraction of and ICE or even a hybrid which more than offsets the price differential. The manufacturing complexity and resulting costs of an EV, other than battery costs are much lower than an ICE.
One of the larger challenges we have today is energy. The current politics is making a case for fossil fuels but its just a matter of time before the realization returns that it needs to be supported by alternatives. If I look at some of the moves over the last week I am planning to jump back in,

Außerdem bekommst du kostenlose ICE Tickets, auch für private Zwecke.
Wenn du 12 Monate machst bekommst du potentiell einen Führerschein dazu den du während dem Dienst absolvierst (wenn du für deinen Aufgabenbereich ein Fahrzeug brauchst), beziehungsweise bis zu 3500€ Zuschuss zum Führerschein machen.
Und Unterstützung bei Umbildung für zivile Zwecke. Praktisch ein Stipendium was dein Studium deutlich erleichtert. Inklusive vollem Bafög kannst du sogar ohne Kredit an einer Privatuni studieren oder hast ein ziemlich gutes Einkommen für einen Student.

Dass die Demokraten schlechter dastehen als die reps, die orange und ICE ist auch ne leistung

Regardless of the outcome, a lot of people stopped (myself included) stopped shopping at Home Depot because of their collaboration with ICE. If they maintained revenue over time, it's likely because prices have become inflated due to bad fiscal policy and Americans continuing to spend like there's no recession coming. I'll shop at a local hardware store, or if I need to, Lowe's.

For me, in the current economic, geopolitic, and tech-advancement environment….
I’d have to say my favorite “MOAT” (kidding) is the well addressed HALO moat.
High Asset / Low Obsolescence
One of my personal favorite positions in this theme right now is Valero (VLO)
Despite what others may say, the “electric vehicle” wave (at least in the US) is NOT going to displace the need for ICE fuel any time soon.
Freight rail, legacy diesel engines, planes, people who don’t want to adopt electric yet, plus many, many others…supports this market.
And the number of refineries has only been declining.
Not only are they capital intensive to build, but the regulation added on top is just a cherry.
NO ONE is building new refineries…and in fact refineries are shutting down.
But the demand is going nowhere.
I’m in since 2024…averaged down through 2024 and early 2025.
Sitting on like 120% return and an amazing dividend yield on cost.

ICE Raises the Stakes for Employers’ I-9 Compliance Failures

Regenerative braking? You don't actually make unless you have solved perpetual motion, but it's less wasteful than with ICE

"We have to believe it's possible" he said, with his back against the wall, staring down a line of ICE agents with rifles aimed at his chest.
Yeah man... I mean, technically anything's possible. But I think fascism's come home to roost. You guy's kinda missed your chance to do anything about it when you let January 6th go completely unpunished.

Nio has never dream firefly will be a great sale. Where did u get the idea? As for ES8, their pricing killed Onvo L90. They shall have price it much higher. And Nio is not BYD. There is still massive room for growth for China market given Nio position themselves as premium. Given Mercedes and BMW EV are nothing but disaster in China. Nio is position to replace many of their ICE car in China.