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Sources for the profitability? Because it never happened, during the 1980’s Saab was owned by Scania (and having operated at a loss during the 1970’s at a loss) and possibly generated a profit, no actual sources beside ”I said so is presented” with the claim”. Saab was a horrible auto manufacturer that should have been put out of its misery at the latest before the GM takeover, but Saab-stan logic is ”duuur, coulda shoulda and accumulated losses doesn’t matter because Trollhättan, GM bad, Swedish government bad, Saab good”.
I note that no sources for the profitability has been presented, I hereby decline further interaction and leave you to continue your fantasy about Saab being anything except a drain on Swedish industry.

Saab (the auto maker) was sometimes profitable, they had their issues, but GM wanting to rebadge cars because that how it works in the US was just dumb (and you know that).
Trabant was taken over by VW and ironically still builds in Zwickau, so that is still going on. 
The car side made profits up to mid 80s when the Swedish crown made life difficult for all Swedish manufacturing. It was also during that period they opened one of the best European assembly lines as a joint venture with Valmet.
Would Koenigsegg have made a difference? We don't know. Same with Spyker and Nevs, what is quite clear was the lack of American understanding on European brands, that's for sure. 
Hence Opel/Vauxhall was sold as well

With CA Honda, GM, Toyota plants dropping shifts to move production to the states to avoid tariffs, CA is completely fcuking their industry by importing from CN.

So is more AI CapEX spending bad, because it means that companies will never recoup their investment, and therefore AMD, MU, and NVDA will lose future orders and fail in some future timeframe?
Or is more AI CapEX spending good for AMD, MU, and NVDA, becuase they are selling more chips?
It is a nonsensical argument. If GM sells more cars this quarter, does the stock go down, because it signals that they will sell less cars next year? Good is bad; up is down.
I mean, what are we doing here? GOOG is not run by a bunch of idiots. If they are spending, then is a good reason for it.

Saab the auto manufacturer was never profitable and always an abysmal failure. NO company wanted to own or operate Saab automobiles besides GM, the Trollhättan delusions will not change that fact. That people lost there jobs is obviously sad for them but no sadder than the people building the Trabant loosing their job.
The claim that Saab automobiles was ever profitable demands proof, please provide such proof.

GM TM and 4LK. Happy Thursday! 🚀💎

That's just factually wrong, it was profitable for many years, since no "non-profitable" business would survive for decades (even with subsidies). 
GM tried to make what they tried (and failed in the US), in that a Saab would just be a rebadged Opel. Hence we got some classics like the Saabaru and what ever SUV monstrosity they built for the US only.
On top of which when other owners showed up, GM really fucked things over for the employees in Sweden, by making an absolute mess of the sale.
Many factors played in the life of Saab, but the Americans were truly the worst part of it. Much like Volvo under Ford...what a mess.

Fair challenge, but you’re moving the goalposts slightly. I said prediction markets can provide useful portfolio signals, not that every probability change automatically produces a profitable trade.
But there are clear examples of prediction-market probabilities being relevant to publicly traded assets:
**1. Trump election odds and DJT**
As Trump’s betting-market odds increased before the 2024 election, Trump Media became a direct election proxy. The stock rose 9% in one day and had nearly tripled from its late-September low. At the time, Polymarket priced Trump at 64%.
Source: [Reuters — Trump Media shares soar as betting odds favor White House win](https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/shares-trumps-media-company-soar-betting-odds-favor-white-house-win-2024-10-22/)
**2. Ukraine peace expectations and European stocks**
When markets perceived a greater probability of a Ukraine peace agreement, Rheinmetall fell 3.7% and Saab fell 4.3%. Meanwhile, Ukraine-exposed Ferrexpo rose 19%, Wizz Air 9%, Raiffeisen 6%, and TUI 4%.
Source: [Reuters — Ukraine-exposed stocks rally, defence dips on Ukraine peace hopes](https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/ukraine-exposed-stocks-rally-defence-dips-ukraine-peace-hopes-2026-01-22/)
**3. Tariff probabilities and automakers**
Trump had threatened auto tariffs for weeks before finally announcing them. After the announcement, GM fell around 7%, Ford around 4%, BMW and Mercedes around 3%, and Toyota 2.7%.
Source: [Reuters — Auto stocks slide as US tariffs send “fatal signal” for trade](https://www.reuters.com/markets/auto-stocks-slide-us-tariffs-spoil-profit-outlook-2025-03-27/)
There is also academic evidence that probability changes in Kalshi’s Fed, inflation, and recession markets contain information about future cryptocurrency volatility beyond conventional indicators.
Source: [Mohanty & Krishnamachari — Do Prediction Markets Forecast Cryptocurrency Volatility?](https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.01431)
None of this proves that blindly following Polymarket or Kalshi generates alpha. The point is that changing probabilities can identify portfolio exposures and scenarios worth investigating.
That is the hypothesis I want to test, not an assumption that every prediction-market move is automatically tradable.

This is dumb. You reduce capex now, you are dropping out of the AI race, admitting defeat in this AI race.
That's like saying people will invest in F and GM over TSLA.

Doesn't negate the point that it was destroyed by GM.

That’s a no. Saab as an automaker was basically never profitable and depending on subsidies by other parts of the company or the owner (first it was the airplane maker Saab, then the truck maker Scania and finally GM).

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While I agree fundamentals and data points are valuable. You are looking at a VW as a whole, which has no moat, and is in a highly competive low margin industry, and a company that is closing factories.
Ferrari is not a good comp for VW, (Ferrari is more luxury than car) BMW, and Mercedes are. You can also include Ford, GM, Toyota but you have to adjust for country premiums. Once you look at it like that you see that it’s VW is still undervalue but I will argue that it’s due to conglomerate discount, falling moat, and factories closing.

Don’t say no one told you:
Motors [(GM)](https://p9wtjppc.r.us-east-1.awstrack.me/L0/https:%2F%2Fwww.barchart.com%2Fquotes%2FGM%3Futm_source=newsletter%26utm_medium=email%26utm_campaign=general-motors-cfo-says-gm-stock-is-a-bargain-heres-why-hes-right/1/0100019f8b168d9f-41acc844-32d0-44d9-8609-6af7f50ca28e-000000/0IJVQ71Laq3k14fCNCxzIxKpqOA=473) released its Q2 2026 earnings yesterday, July 21, before the markets opened. The legacy automaker [beat estimates and raised](https://p9wtjppc.r.us-east-1.awstrack.me/L0/https:%2F%2Fwww.barchart.com%2Fstory%2Fnews%2F3381085%2Fgeneral-motorss-nysegm-q2-cy2026-sales-beat-estimates%3Futm_source=newsletter%26utm_medium=email%26utm_campaign=general-motors-cfo-says-gm-stock-is-a-bargain-heres-why-hes-right/1/0100019f8b168d9f-41acc844-32d0-44d9-8609-6af7f50ca28e-000000/0-ACs2Oq6h21g1CvhMuuGGhKzJ4=473) its 2026 guidance for the second time this year

GM anach

GM quietly up +69% over the past year

I’m gonna buy a put on GM just to be a hater

GM 🅱️uddy ☀️

I tried to post on WSB but as of this afternoon, we're about $800,000 short of the $500 mil rule.
$EVGO doesn't need to dilute when they have a US GOV DOE loan...
There's an imminent turnaround from this ATL and I feel it in me bones.
$EVGO just breached its all-time low at $1.60 🎉🎉🎉, leaving a \~35% short float (10+ days to cover) trapped in a classic overleveraged setup.
​Key Bull Drivers:
\-Overblown Dilution Fears: Shorts bet on dilution, but EVgo tapped less than $20M of its $200M ATM since it opened in 2022. Why would they use it now?...expansion is funded by a $750M DOE loan.
\-​EV Sales Bottomed: US EV sales bounced +15% QoQ in Q2 as market share held firm. Charger throughput keeps compounding.
\-Path to #2 DC Network: Operating 5,200+ fast-charging stalls, EVgo is capturing the non-Tesla infrastructure expansion (GM/Pilot builds).
\-I just bought my first EV last month with all this Iran BS. I needed a new car anyways so now I get to save money on not buying gas and oil changes (other maintenance). And it's really fun to drive.
​Trading at \~0.8x sales despite $110M Q1 revenue, $EVGO is completely mispriced at all-time lows.
\--->The Play: Long shares or LEAPS before they panic-cover. Going half port tomorrow at market open. Get it while it's cold.

They owned both companies for 90+ years. Sold it off because GM itself was facing bankruptcy.