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Ford is #4 of EV sellers behind Hyundai GM and Tesla who incredibly is still selling cars but the US overall is far behind Europe and China who are surging in EV sales - this should not be but it’s entirely due to politics

Yeah it doesn’t matter what ford does, bc I’d never buy one. Same with GM. American cars blow.

Ford, GM and Chrysler are all ass-backwards, still trying to bank off the legacy they made throughout the mid-late 20th century. What makes it worse is their reliability is in the toilet. It’s one thing to have a small line-up of vehicles, it’s another to make them worse than your competitors models.
I owned all Ford most of my early adult life, switched to Japanese brands recently. The only very reliable Ford I owned was a ‘13 Taurus SEL, and I traded that for a ‘19 Ranger, which ended up needing its transmission rebuilt. I’ll never understand the need for a huge truck if most people treat them as pavement princesses anyway.

they drank the “everyone will drive an EV by 2030” koolaid. Same as GM and Ford.

The American government (and state and local governments) made money on the GM bailout because of all the extra tax revenue generated by GM still existing.

I see them way more often than Cybertrucks or GM ev trucks. I almost never see ford lightnings.

This is the problem with America and American companies. Looking @ short term gain rather than preparing for the long term. Sure currently demand for EV’s might have come down but, EV’s are the future. Just look @ the rest of the world. Solid state batteries are just starting to be produced in meaningful numbers and mass. The conversion to EV’s is going to happen. Ford, GM, and Chrysler will be going the way of Packard, Plymouth, and Studebaker. Sure ICE vehicles might do fine here in the U.S. for now but, what about exporting vehicles that sell to other countries? They are not going to continue buying ICE vehicles. And Ford will not have the capacity to reduce the cost of production of these vehicles to be EV’s because they just stopped investing in the future. I’m not investing a dime in them. I think they are dead / dying.

Most likely AI will condense into something like autos did in the US. A "Big Three" who are the major players The GM, Ford, and Chrysler of the AI world.

The only thing we can do is say that when that happens, we won't buy from them again. Most people won't miss not buying GM vehicles when there are much better options.

Completely agree.
I waited 45 minutes to be able to order once, and there were 15 people there.
Why did this happen? I can explain:
I walked in, went to a counter for in-store purchases (not pick-ups) and waited in a line at the counter for 15 minutes. My time comes up and I was told that I couldn’t buy at the counter. I had to place my order beforehand and pick it up at the counter. Okay cool, makes sense. Which counter? They tell me to stand in the other line for the other counter and someone will help me.
Every one of their cashiers were high, it was offensively lazy to me as a customer. And I smoke everyday lol, just not at work.
So the high cashier tells me, see those people over there in that line? You gotta wait in that line at that counter. They’ll be able to help you out!
So I wait in that line for 5-10 min, and explain the same conversation to this new person. They tell me I can’t order from them and that I have to have an existing order for pick up.
They tell me to do place an order online with my phone and it can be ready in 15 minutes. So I try ordering on my phone, get to the checkout page, and it tells me I cannot buy anything because I am not a Nevada resident.
Okay, that one’s on me too, I was just visiting. But that was frustrating as hell and I ask the cashier now what to do, this time interrupting them with another customer who was in the line being me.
They say I HAVE TO ORDER ON THE KIOSKS AT THE FRONT DOOR
So at this point it had been 30 minutes with no order placed, and no product purchased or received.
I went directly to the GM and explained why this is unacceptable. She was SUPER cool about it, gave me 2x of everything that I bought, plus a free joint. Kudos to her for doing that for my dumbass. I told her she gained a customer for life!

hard to say how many screens would disappear. Debt holders would get the company. They'd have the ability in bankruptcy to ditch bad leases and prob close some screens, but most would still be there. GM went bankrupt, still make cares. AMC will still be around, even after bankruptcy.

Auto makers know they can go out of business and get saved and bailed out by the US gov't just like when GM got bought by the US after the last crash of 08/09. No one pays attention to little cues like this: Cox Automotive estimates yearly [auto repossessions](https://moneywise.com/auto/young-georgia-mans-bmw-repossessed-despite-making-all-payments-on-brutal-349-interest-loan-and-dealer-refuses-to-say-why?utm_source=syn_oath_mon&utm_medium=WL&utm_campaign=155379&utm_content=syn_39c60d61-2f50-4bec-a19e-c21ecd9344a4) went up about 43% between 2022 and 2024, up to 1.73 million units, the highest since 2009

GM did have credibility with reliability through Buick - and the final LeSabre was the top selling full size sedan from 2000-2005. Then they killed it.

Big trucks and SUVs are the top sellers in America across brands. The exceptions are Honda and Toyota sedans, but American makers will never be able to break into that because people buy those for long-term reliability and low maintenance. Ford, GM, etc. don’t have the interest or acumen to build a car like that.
EVs had a surge in popularity, but it died down once credits ended and they became politicized. I don’t think there is much crossover appeal between people who want giant trucks and SUVs and people who want efficient EVs.

Ford is also simultaneously driving the demand for what people want. Ford/GM/Dodge have spent 2+ decades shaping the market towards its current vehicle demand, it was quite obvious they were gonna need to take a while if intentional marketing and lobbying to once again shift public sentiment.
Instead, they barely made it to a third date, let alone the alter.

GM! Just want to say that I am very thankful and grateful for everyone and I hope you all have a beautiful day 🚀🌙💜

GM, HM. I need a cup.

I think customers do respond. Look at Nissan, I think the individual demand for Nissan has reduced significantly over the years. People favored better products.
I think only GM comes to mind for a good US quality product.

Hard to teach someone who is incentivized not to listen. Car dealerships earn 50% of their gross margins on vehicle repairs. Half of the money coming in the door is from that small repair shop on the property.
Convince someone to give up half their business that is much of the driver for even existing in the first place. GM went through this with some of the EV releases and bought out many of their dealers who just hard refused to support.

My LCS never had germania mint , and if they do its 10 ozers that i cant afford 🫤🫤 my first bar was a 100g GM and i need more!