GM
General Motors Company
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you do not seem to appreciate the magnitude of the Great Financial Crisis. It was the Worst Recession since the Great Depression.
Lehman Bros went bankrupt and shutdown. the Secretary of Treasury was throwing up while dealing with this. Every other day the market was crashing. Bear Stearns failed and was sold to JP Morgan. subprime mortgages were failing massively. many banks failed. Many jobs lost. TARP passed by Congress and used to lend money to corporations. Fed began massive Quantiative Easing and Fed funds rate cut to 0. GM and Chrysler were in serious trouble and GM filed bankruptcy. AIG was going to fail but the feds deemed it shouldn't (and were given a massive bailout). Feds took over management of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae (quasi government agencies holding mortgages)
Unemployment was very high for many years
This wasn't a crash. People thought the financial system was going to collapse

[https://www.history.com/articles/great-recession-timeline](https://www.history.com/articles/great-recession-timeline)

Gamestop would at bare minimum be GS not GM. I assume general motors. But you do you.

GM ≠ GME

Typo there, I meant GM not GME

Is that GM or FORD, stock performance looks atrocious, he invested 220k and now it’s 341k ? So a 120k gain ?
Either ways a solid advice if you are not too stock savvy, throw 5-10k a year into index funds like VOO or FXAIX and don’t touch them for 15-20 years, they will outgrow a lot.

Ford and GM don't deserve to exist anymore

Hi again r/ValueInvesting, for those who haven't seen my posts before: I'm the GM of the stock research side at Obermatt, a Swiss investment research firm. We rank stocks across 60+ markets on four factors (Value, Growth, Safety, Sentiment) relative to their industry peers. Standard disclosure since I work there: this is Obermatt's own research, sharing it here because I think the framework is useful for this community, not because I'm selling anything in this post.
The AI-driven selloff pushed the whole SaaS sector below the broad market on forward earnings for the first time on record. It's tempting to treat that as one undifferentiated bargain bin. I ran our Value Rank on twelve well known SaaS names from Europe, North America and Asia-Pacific to see if the data actually supports that. It doesn't. The Value Ranks span nearly the entire scale.
**Names that screen as genuinely cheap (Value Rank 55+):**
* **RingCentral** (Value 100): modest 5% revenue growth, but record operating margin, first-ever dividend, debt cleared through 2030.
* **Open Text** (Value 100): cloud business has grown organically for 21 straight quarters, GAAP net income up 86% last quarter.
* **Intuit** (Value 87, Combined 98): revenue up 10%, dividend raised 15%, stock still dropped 20% on results day.
* **Salesforce** (Value 87): Agentforce ARR passed $1.2B and grew 200%+, stock still down about a third over the year.
* **SAP** (Value 57): cloud revenue up 27% at constant currency, 21.9B euro cloud backlog, stock still down \~40% on the year.
* **Dassault Systèmes** (Value 55): fairly priced, but Growth Rank is only 31 on a 3% revenue quarter, so the valuation isn't really the story here, the slowdown is.
**Names that are cheap with a catch (Value Rank 40s):**
* **Adobe** (Value 47): reasonably priced, but Sentiment Rank is 25, the lowest of the twelve. AI-first recurring revenue tripled past $500M, but the market doesn't seem to believe it yet.
* **WiseTech Global** (Value 42): strong growth (93), moved \~95% of customers to transaction-based pricing as a structural hedge against AI eroding per-seat SaaS models, but Safety Rank is only 33 on the back of layoffs and restructuring.
* **Trend Micro** (Value 41): the boring, safe one. Safety Rank of 94, \~70% dividend payout ratio.
**Names still priced for perfection (Value Rank under 30):**
* **ServiceNow** (Value 27): beat every metric, raised AI revenue guidance, still fell 17% on results day, worst single session in company history. Sentiment Rank of 100 despite that.
* **Snowflake** (Value 4): product revenue up 34%, but you're paying full price for that growth to continue for years.
* **Cloudflare** (Value 1): grew 34%, its fastest in 6+ quarters, cutting \~1,100 roles to reposition around agentic AI. Still the most expensive name on the list by Value.
Full piece with sourcing on all the earnings/news above: [https://link.obermatt.com/saas-en/](https://link.obermatt.com/saas-en/)
Curious how this framework lands with people who do fundamentals-first investing. Does ranking Value against sector peers (rather than an absolute threshold like P/E under X) match how you think about relative value, or do you prefer a different lens entirely?

GM! I’m new to investing and my father told me that $ENE was a good investment in his day. Any other good stocks today like this one?

Any community with regular "GM" / "GN" posts is a cult and should be avoided. Be it apes, LinkedIn, crypto, whatever.

The Ford Maverick sold 155,000 units last year. The demand is absolutely there, and it's basically a Prius Pickup Truck that was around 29K. GM really is missing the boat on hybrids.