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Sure. But when the economy experiences quite literally 40 years inflation in six years, and there are more people living with their parents in their 20s/30s because they can't afford $2000 rent and $5 petrol, I think we can pretty easily discern that these are not only unprecedented times, but the odds of all these people being financially illiterate is lower than an economy legitimately squeezing every penny out of laborers. Laughably wrong? I've lived in small/medium midwestern towns all my life. The average person makes $19 an hour here. Sure a house is only 250k and not 450k, but you're also making half the money. I lived in Lansing for decades which is a husk of what it was before GM left. Calling bullshit send me these decent listings.

Solid growth in H1 - 16.3Bn As compared to 2025 - 4.6 Bn.. Not so good is the fact that 25% of that revenue comes from just two whale customers.....and neither has a long-term contract. They could walk tomorrow. The Burn: Operating margin is a brutal -49.4%, leading to an $8.06B operating loss after burning $9B on front-loaded infrastructure. Gross margins at 44.4% META GM at 68% and Google GM at 61% $450B in non-cancellable (well almost....we know how these contracts are) cloud commitments over the next decade ($111B to Google, $110B to AWS, $31B to MSFT) that they must pay even if nobody uses their models. I'm encouraged by the direction of AI and the productivity benefits. Anthropic is a clear leader in the Enterprise space.. To me ...it makes sense to wait post the IPO Just like SpaceX allowed the opportunity post the fronth clearing up by early Aug ...the price was $105!

Let me guess. They are predominantly US based. They have been with the company for a long time and have accrued stock options that are costing the company. They may be older and more costly to insure with health care. So if they take the package MS nets a profit. If they do not the package will be withdrawn and they will still be shown the door. This is the modus operandi in Silicon Valley. So much so that the TV comedy of the same name made light of it. Note the company will of course target a few in other Countries and of variable age and tenure. That blocks the potential lawsuits for age discrimination etc. What will be interesting is how many of MS' massive number of SVP's, VP's, GM's, Directors are shown the door. I mean AI has to be as good at their jobs as they are too.

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Tesla just today added more market value than Ford and GM combined while having sold less cars, less revenue and less profit than either of them individually.

You really like the number 10. Why not top 7 companies? Why not the last 12 years? A quick google search will answer your questions. The 2015–2026 super-cycle is historic. Digital age + holding company structure make for big ass market caps. But history is a bad way to predict future markets. Looking at what happened to General Electric or GM as a way to predict what will happen to Amazon or Alphabet is probably not the soundest approach.

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The U.S. taxpayer put roughly $49.5–$50.2 billion into GM via TARP. It recovered about $39–$39.7 billion, mostly by selling its equity stake (which started around 60.8%) after GM’s 2009 bankruptcy and 2010 IPO. You can try to put all the lipstick you want on that pig. The taxpayers still got shafted for $10.4 billion (actually, 11.2B) from the GM bailout.

GM didn’t even pay back their loan. The company that was GM pre “bailout” was allowed to go bankrupt and shareholders were wiped out. The CEO and board was dismissed. The government received equity for their funding the new GM.

GM left the American taxpayer on the hook for 10.4 billion. So, I don't know where the f\*ck you're coming up with, 'GM paid their loan back in two years'. Obama gave half a Chrysler to the UAW and the other half was sold to Fiat.

GM paid back their loan in 2 years. Chrysler in 3. Because they had a fundamental business under the loan that wasn't significantly impacted. What business is a business of AI BS hype? That's 80% of their value. A big lesson: The government also can force a change in governance and much of the ownership. When it bought into these companies it forced that change. They can demand the same from Tesla and SpaceX, because if you're being bailed out to begin with, you're not being governed prudently.

It was only a couple weeks ago that he moved his Ohio rally to a high school gym - which he barely filled - because the auto plant he planned to have his photo op at was shuttered. And what happened to that Georgia EV battery plant (LG/Hyundai) which ICE raided. This occurred when their Congresswoman Majorie Taylor Green supported the Epstein Disclosure Act. No the facts do not support the post. The truth is that the Fossil Fuel Industry that has been dictating US Foreign and Domestic Policy for a Century got freaked out by the rise of Renewables, battery storage and EVs. The power utility monopolies did as well. And that Inconvenient Truth - Climate Change is not a hoax. (They covered it up since the 1980's.) Think about this. During the President Carter Administration he told the American Public the truth. If we do not change our ways we will be fighting oil wars forever. History proves he was right. He put solar panels on the White House and invested in Renewables, Hybrids and EVs (his Moonshots). All the automakers took the money and built protos. GM had the Electrovair (electric Corvair) in 1966 and the EV1 in 1995. That's 17 years before Tesla. GM also held the patents for hybrid electric systems from their 1932 diesel electric train engines - still in use today. The Cartel made SURE the public never got them. It threatened their hegemony. And here we are. They bought Trump with over a billion in donations.

I'm not certain that how it works - What appears in market is valuations of companies, ie the collective assessment of their tangible and intangible assets, including their future productive capacity. - When people start selling more, the price drops until equilibrium of buying / selling is reached again, reflecting that people think a company is worth less - At this point, *wealth is destroyed*. The world has less value. It doesn't even need more cash, as an extreme example if tomorrow for some reason a company invent teleportation for free, and if no one wants to buy GM stock, that company values goes to 0, with no cash generated. - Cash itself is not a real asset per se, it's a transient hold of money we agree we can all use to acquire other assets. It's like oil in an engine. It literally gets created by your bank when you ask for a loan (ie economic activity picks up) and get destroyed when you pay back your loan (ie economic activity gets destroyed)

managed futures, global macro, cat bonds all show good correlations to equities. MF, GM: see table, top page 2 ... [https://www.grahamcapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/The-Benefits-of-Non-Correlated-Alpha\_Jan-23.pdf](https://www.grahamcapital.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/The-Benefits-of-Non-Correlated-Alpha_Jan-23.pdf) CBs look promising, but are fairly new to retail, as ILS.

currently not much, i sold out with the crash SPY, AT&T, Reddit, GM, NFLX, BIRK I like to buy after selloffs been gamma scalping Nebius the last month with great results, the RV is just so much bigger than IV