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I'm curious how much money BB is expected to make from this.

Worst thing BB has ever done to me was burn my portfolio alive.

20-25 in 2025!
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And still you are roaming in the BB sub 😂

Lol. The 'squeeze' made me a bag holder for 4 years. Still $1 short from purchase price.
It's a relatively stable stock. But I wouldn't expect it to 1.5x anytime soon.
Unless NVIDIA does an announcement( highly unlikely) about a partnership with BB, or a big ransomware hit to boost it's media presence.

crazy how even after 5 years this sub is still in the bbag dellusion. I sold my my BB shares for a major loss and never looked back. Made all the loss back on NVDA and AAPL with profit on top within 2.5 years. Just accept the L and move on.

$BB Daily Discussion

Sure. I like the stock but if I get the chance to sell BB shares over $20 again. Bet yer ass they gone babe.

the market cap of the two companies (BB, TSLA) should really be the other way around...

BB has like 15M net income in 1H of the year and it's still volatile, meaning there could still be negative quarters ahead. Given the valution i'd say it's pretty non existent earnings. That being said they are definitely doing the best they've done in years. That's what i admire and that's what the market is already pricing too (stock price has done +100% in a year). So good luck to all the holders, i'm one of them.

BB has earnings. What they lack is growth

BB has a pretty high valuation already given available cash and no earnings. Expectations are already high. So it is already very "healthy"

5 million copies is what I saw as far as numbers go, in 6 months. To quote tech4gamers : "it had a strong start but it is currently their lowest sales in the series across the last 5 entries".
Its the first AC game I didn't bother buying/playing in some capacity. The last far cry didn't impress me either, even if I am a big fan of Gus from BB.

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BlackBerry's both division’s - QNX and Secured Communications are Performing Optimally with current CEO and his team management and the upcoming second consecutive ER beat on all metrics will prove it.
Undeniably and Unbelievably!!!
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There have been numerous articles posted on this forum and in stock twits citing those numbers, with the implication that BB will also grow at at least that rate.
Here’s one saying 16.5% from quick googling.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/automotive-software-market-hit-usd-140700039.html
And yes, fewer ECUs, but more instances of QNX, all managed by a hyper visor, and all operating off one chip/ECU. Additionally, each of these instances of QNX will be priced higher than what much currently is ($3-5) and largely for infotainment /ADAS. They’ll go from fewer low prices instances, to more higher priced ones. Penetration should also increase as the percentage of cars become more high tech.
On top of that the connected computing at the edge(The service formally known as IVY) which as far as I can tell is just theoretical at this point, but which has also supposedly been commercially available since May 2023, but has zero revenues directly attributable because of NDAs or whatever lie the sympathizers want to believe.
Sadly, I fear I may just be being hopeful. If they can’t do a hell of a lot better than low double digit growth, then this stock is priced exactly right in the mid single digits.

$BB Daily Discussion

That's not good enough.
They're in an industry where high double and triple digit growth is not uncommon.
The fairly niche industry of automotive OS systems is set to grow at a CAGR of over 20% based on many estimates across all players.
That should be the absolute bare minimum if they want to be taken seriously as a company of any consequence.
If they can't beat that by a decent margin, ie 40%+, then they have no business using phrases like "blast off" or "firing on all cylinders". That's the case yet you can't even hit the average of your peers? They should be saying things like "BB is on the short bus" or "Getting the participation trophy of automotive OS's" That is to say, accomplishments well below average and any acknowledgement is a bit of a pity prize.

[https://electrek.co/2025/03/28/hyundai-evs-smarter-more-efficient-new-pleos-brand/](https://electrek.co/2025/03/28/hyundai-evs-smarter-more-efficient-new-pleos-brand/)
**Hyundai’s EVs are about to get smarter and more efficient with its new ‘Pleos’ brand**
Powered by its E&E platform, Hyundai’s new OS combines high-performance vehicle computers and zone-specific controllers. The tech enables its vehicles to improve over time with continuous updates and added functions.
The first vehicle with [**Pleos Connect**](https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/newsroom/detail/0000000921) is scheduled to arrive in Q2 2026. By 2030, Hyundai Motor Group (including Kia and Genesis) plans to have more than 20 million vehicles powered by its next-gen infotainment system.
 
[https://www.qnx.com/news/pr\_188\_1.html?lang=de](https://www.qnx.com/news/pr_188_1.html?lang=de)
Deutsche Pressemitteilungen
**Hyundai Autonet Selects QNX Neutrino RTOS for Multimedia Telematics Platform**
**OTTAWA, June 17, 2003** \- QNX Software Systems today announced that Hyundai Autonet, a leader in automotive multimedia electronics, has selected the QNX® Neutrino® realtime operating (RTOS) for its Driver Information System (DIS) Platform.
This telematics platform, based on the mobileGTTM architecture, is one of the first to use the emerging networking standard MOST (Media Oriented System Transport) to provide information and entertainment throughout the car. MOST, a fiber-optic network optimized for the automobile industry, together with the QNX Neutrino RTOS, enables the DIS platform to simultaneously run navigation systems, hands-free phone modules, rear-seat entertainment screens, and other media-rich applications. The unit also integrates standard automotive controls like window lifts, seat adjusts, and HVAC through a single, multi-function console.
[https://www.facebook.com/groups/rushlanespylane/posts/3698827957048323/](https://www.facebook.com/groups/rushlanespylane/posts/3698827957048323/)
**Hyundai and Kia Next-Gen Infotainment System Development with Samsung**
[**https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hyundai-launches-pleos-operating-system-090254046.html**](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hyundai-launches-pleos-operating-system-090254046.html)
South Korean automaker Hyundai Motor Group (HMG) launched its new proprietary Pleos software brand at the “Pleos 25” developer conference in Seoul last week. The event was attended by the automaker’s global in-vehicle application ecosystem partners, including representatives of Samsung Electronics, Google, Naver, SOCAR and Unity, as they looked to step up collaboration in the development of in-vehicle app “ecosystems.”
Our ultimate goal is to achieve Cloud Mobility, where all forms of mobility are connected through software on the cloud, and continuously evolve over time. Pleos serves to create a connected mobility experience expanding from a vehicle to fleets, hardware to software, and ultimately to the entire mobility infrastructure and cities.”
 
[https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hyundai-mobis-selects-blackberry-qnx-000000399.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hyundai-mobis-selects-blackberry-qnx-000000399.html)
**Hyundai Mobis Selects BlackBerry QNX to Power Next-Generation Digital Cockpit Platform**
 
**WATERLOO, ON and SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA / ACCESSWIRE / November 6, 2024 /** [BlackBerry Limited](https://pr.report/3xgu) (NYSE:BB)(TSX:BB) today announced Hyundai Mobis, a subsidiary of the Hyundai Motor Group, has selected BlackBerry QNX to power its next-generation digital cockpit platform.
[https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/newsroom/detail/hyundai-motor-group-hosts-pleos-sdv-standard-forum-to-drive-software-defined-vehicle-era-through-collaboration-0000000997](https://www.hyundai.com/worldwide/en/newsroom/detail/hyundai-motor-group-hosts-pleos-sdv-standard-forum-to-drive-software-defined-vehicle-era-through-collaboration-0000000997)
**SEOUL, August 20, 2025** – Hyundai Motor Group (the Group) has reinforced its leadership in the software-defined vehicle (SDV) era by sharing the latest technology standards and software development system with its key partners, strengthening the foundation for collaboration.
 
Today, the Group hosted the ‘Pleos SDV Standard Forum’ at the Software Dream Center in Pangyo, Korea. The event brought together core engineering leaders from 58 key partners, including Hyundai Mobis, Hyundai Kefico, Bosch, Continental, HL Mando, and other vehicle control system specialists.
 
[https://semiconductor.samsung.com/processor/automotive-processor/exynos-auto-v9/](https://semiconductor.samsung.com/processor/automotive-processor/exynos-auto-v9/)
[https://x.com/QNX\_News/status/1851256448212144215](https://x.com/QNX_News/status/1851256448212144215)
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I think BB had been in a stressful situation wrt cash flow for so long that the management is just taking a break for a quarter or two before testing the waters again