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Question about HOA sa pinas. My mother gave me a lot that is in a subdivision, and we put up some cement fence. When the contractors were building the fence, the HOA came and asked us for HOA fees, but we declined. telling them is HOMEOWNER association fees. We are LOT owners and there is no house yet. They haven't asked us for the fee again since... does this mean they will charge us for the back dues in the future? I find it unfair that we would have to pay for HOA dues when we don't even have a house there. As of now it's still is just a vacant lot.

Economy is doing very bad. GDP has grown, but GDP per capita has shrunk every year for the last 5 years (2% shrink total, the worst 5 year stretch in Canada since the Great Depression). The majority of Canada’s economic “growth” is simply real estate costs increasing due to massive immigration quotas. Essentially, the economic pie has been getting a bit bigger, but the amount of people looking for a slice has gotten a LOT bigger. While I agree we could be doing worse, we could also be doing so much better. We have so many resources, so much land, and such great people, yet we refuse to pop the housing bubble, leaving the younger generations in the lurch. Young people are leaving at the fastest rate in Canadian history, and if we don’t course correct, QOL will (continue to) go down the drain.

Of course, thats always the same. You dont get rich playing a safe game.
If you want 50x or 100x you need to invest when their is still a high chance that they dont make it and go bancrupt.
I got in at 10 usd, doubled up at 6 usd and doubled up again at 3 usd. I went through a valley of pain in these years. My average is just below 5 usd.
When it started to go up, people told me to sell when i break even. They told me to sell at 15 usd, at the 35 spike in 2024 again, because 7x is a great gain. It bleeded down to 20 again. Damn it....
Then we hit 60, but a few weeks later, we were at 35 again. Should i sell? Hold on?
After we hit 100 it went down to the 50s again....
So what i want to say: even if you got in early its not easy to get these 20x winners, because you will be tempted to sell A LOT of times.

New spoofing tech allowing scammers to call you from a legitimate bank number. NEVER take incoming calls or text. Only speak to people you have called. Even if the calls are coming from a number you know to be your bank or brokerage number.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm\_TVFcnUZk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_TVFcnUZk)

This seems to be hitting the Denver area mostly right now. Don't know how they're getting it done without inside information because they had A LOT of specific details about this guys banking.

absolute fool. What you need is not encouragement but to activate your brain and not be ruled by anger or greed.

You clearly have no idea what you're doing so you should not even trade. Spend at least one year paper trading and learning.

And no you dont feel "behind", you ARE behind. And you have wasted A LOT of money because you are blinded by emotion

I think there is a LOT of store to store quality variability, which is a problem. I’ve been to some like you describe and some that are much nicer and complete. I hope they are factoring this in when making store closure decisions

8mil would’ve been fk you money in the 90s, not now though. Now 5-10 mil is financial freedom. However, Hospice at old age for your parents, your spouse, and yourself will eat a 8 mil principal to zero when the time comes. Fuck you money comes at 50 mil. That’s when you can do whatever you want. Which is still a LOT less than a billion. And there are lots of billionaires who absolutely will never be able to use that amount of money ethically.

I haven't sold a share.
It's not too early, but unless you put a LOT of money in, it won't be an obscene amount of money out now.
I'm not selling until they at least get the whole constellation active, so 2-4 years.

> Then there is a swiss company that went public recently thay has A LOT of products that they love. It is called Galderma.
Galderma has been a great investment. It's definitely not cheap/a lot is priced in at this point but was nice to see L'Oreal take their investment from 10% to 20% not that long ago. Thanks for your comments.

Get on board the Metal Train. Beautiful gold and vintage silver for you tonight!
PROOF - https://imgur.com/hzHh7lB
Offers accepted on multiple items.
BIN it and Win it. First to BIN gets it. Otherwise I decide the order in which I respond to chats. And to be fair to others BIN means Buy It **Now**, so no dilly-dallying or or haggling.
If I make a mistake in my pricing I reserve the right to change it.
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**GOLD**
**1x - 1811-A Napoleon I w/ Laurels NGC AU53 (#2930304-001)**
* $1040
* https://imgur.com/6b6J0XZ
* https://imgur.com/8ccuhML
**1x - 1812-A Napoleon I w/ Laurels NGC AU53 (#6590179-005)**
* $1040
* https://imgur.com/YF67rv6
* https://imgur.com/QzwDCIs
**1x - 1876 (76) Spain 25 Peseta Alfonso XII - .2334 ozt**
* $1125
* https://imgur.com/RnSWjmF
* https://imgur.com/oWX7Omv
**1x - 1881 (81) Spain 25 Peseta Alfonso XII with Beard - .2334 ozt**
* $1125
* https://imgur.com/NHH2fLE
* https://imgur.com/9Zq2Oc7
**1x - 1898 5 Rouble Nicholas II - .1245 ozt**
* $639
* https://imgur.com/vvfp3Kl
* https://imgur.com/AJQjPMi
**1x - 1901 10 Rouble Nicholas II - .2489 ozt**
* $1225
* https://imgur.com/LjShIzk
* https://imgur.com/8BHhAcw
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**SLABBED MORGAN SILVER**
**1x - 1897-S Morgan PCGS MS64**
* $310
* https://imgur.com/u54XGz9
* https://imgur.com/EQrAPj6
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**PREMIUM SILVER**
**1x - 1990 1oz Kookaburra w/ amazing purple toning. In original square capsule. The capsule has a chip missing. First Year of the Kook!**
* $99
* https://imgur.com/jcpI8az
* https://imgur.com/ojxA2u7
**4x - ASE Toners in Capsules. All gorgeous toning. 1994, 2000, 2002, 2006**
* $95 each
* https://imgur.com/cEwTERK
* https://imgur.com/3LMdaYE
**1x - 2025-P CAC MS69 ASE w/ Eagle Privy**
* $99
* https://imgur.com/jB3I1oC
* https://imgur.com/HJ3YUdo
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**VINTAGE SILVER**
**1x - 10oz Engelhard Waffleback 7th Series (99 9+ spacing)**
* $995
* https://imgur.com/PL2km0v
* https://imgur.com/czgmjmX
**1x - 10oz Engelhard P-loaf. Odd scar on the bottom.**
* $955
* https://imgur.com/2PowcmM
* https://imgur.com/zgbmVdw
**1x - 1984 Engelhard Prosepctor. Eagle Reverse. Nice and Shiny.**
* $94
* https://imgur.com/4h9RphV
* https://imgur.com/IhKESra
**1x - Suoer Duper Rare USVI Roman Head High Relief Ingot. With original packaging. Extremely low mintage. Beautiful even toning.**
* $599
* https://imgur.com/lvEXU8I
* https://imgur.com/OvkSYAw
* https://imgur.com/J7jNCsj
**1x - Hoffman & Hoffman High Relief Trade Unit w/ Eagle Reverse**
* $98
* https://imgur.com/upuZE2F
* https://imgur.com/fVm88Kb
**1x - 1oz Vintage Rose, For Someone Special. Excellent Condition**
* $98
* https://imgur.com/BZOY3vE
* https://imgur.com/neegYFa
**2x - 1980 1oz A-Mark Ingots. Asterisk variety. Very very rare**
* $149 each
* https://imgur.com/EoxzKOF
* https://imgur.com/vCfGOO7
**~~10x~~ ~~8x~~ ~~7x~~ 4x - 1980 1oz A-Mark Ingots, A-mark Oval variety. Uncirculated condition, most have a beautiful golden tone, but three are blast white. All have luster.**
* $100 each
* https://imgur.com/BK7htgS
* https://imgur.com/2VFSqZ4
* https://imgur.com/B8etaLn
**1x - 1.62oz PMTARCO vintage pour. Seriously far out on the rarity scale.**
* $349
* https://imgur.com/xyt2z4S
* https://imgur.com/MUTSL87
**1x - .96oz PMTARCO vintage pour out of Anaheim, CA. Super-duper rare piece. You will not see this little guy often.**
* $309
* https://imgur.com/mmCYeJw
* https://imgur.com/ooP0WGk
**1x - 1oz Belford Mint Sharps Rifle Limited Edition Art Bar. Great condition**
* $90 (way way below comps)
* https://imgur.com/awDBvWT
* https://imgur.com/MhEakLo
**1x - 1981 1oz US Assay Office Round**
* $95
* https://imgur.com/jTc3Esd
* https://imgur.com/FTHY7fu
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**MINIATURE SILVER CASTERS**
Found another awesome artist to showcase for you all! J.C. Metals & More. This guy is great. He makes tiny silver fantasy weapons and objects. They are all hand molded, hand cast, and then hand stamped with the tiniest numbers to ensure you know their weight and 999 purity. Each and every one is unique, but there are a few similar pieces. I think you are gonna love these. Support a small local artist this holiday season, they are getting to live the dream :)
**PLEASE ORDER BY NUMBER!! THERE ARE A LOT**
Full Album - https://imgur.com/a/91VKtmG
-2. ~~[Crow Bar](https://imgur.com/ZM2iHzd) - $16~~ SOLD
-4. [Sword](https://imgur.com/EvaIYy7) - $20
-7. [Machete](https://imgur.com/wRIsjqm) - $7
-12. [Machine Gun 2](https://imgur.com/kduAhYT) - $24
-13. [Tiny Pistol](https://imgur.com/ROiuLjE) - $7
-17. [Machine Gun 3](https://imgur.com/zD44LgL) - $28
-18. ~~[Starheart](https://imgur.com/1nPWuHO) - $41~~ SOLD
-20. [Machine Gun 4](https://imgur.com/m8xdVs6) - $28
-22. [3 piece Gun, Magazine, Bipod](https://imgur.com/5KhDxmg) - $48
-23. [Machine Gun 5](https://imgur.com/vIBADVg) - $28
-24. ~~[Tiny Pistol 2](https://imgur.com/5ADtvkw) - $8~~ SOLD
-25. [Fantasy Sword 2](https://imgur.com/4yRebcI) - $34
-26. [Rifle](https://imgur.com/4Cekwts) - $28
-27. [Shotgun 2](https://imgur.com/2TjFbf4) - $27
-28. [Machine Gun 6](https://imgur.com/tc1cUV6) - $31
-29. [Baseball Bat](https://imgur.com/TgSzoWj) - $28
-31. ~~[Bow](https://imgur.com/EWLnz2h) - $12~~ SOLD
-32. ~~[Tiny Pistol 2](https://imgur.com/SqEGUz8) - $7~~ SOLD
-33. [2 piece Gun & Bipod](https://imgur.com/TJVgMeS) - $48
-35. [2 piece Gun & Magazine](https://imgur.com/CUOkQml) - $34
-37. [Starheart 2](https://imgur.com/KEx825u) - $41
-40. [Police Baton](https://imgur.com/DD7W2xH) - $12
-41. ~~[Machete 2](https://imgur.com/916OlGS) - $7~~ SOLD
-43. [2 piece Rifle w/ Bayonette](https://imgur.com/xWA7Eqq) - $49
-45. [Machine Gun 7](https://imgur.com/t5ADai7) - $42
-46. [Syringe](https://imgur.com/lrQUIll) - $7
-49. [Weird Gun](https://imgur.com/cVKKh4K) - $20
-50. [Bolt Cutters](https://imgur.com/LFbYSHB) - $12
-55. [Battle Axe 2](https://imgur.com/YsT9htw) - $56
-56. [Fantasy Sword](https://imgur.com/jyDFJyQ) - $21
-57. ~~[Tiny Pistol 4](https://imgur.com/rDjDNEi) - $7~~ SOLD
-58. [Bat Wing](https://imgur.com/S0LYXPC) - $12
-59. [Machine Gun 8](https://imgur.com/6Iljqe8) - $32
-60. [Machine Gun 9](https://imgur.com/lqBfXRP) - $35
-62. [2 piece Gun & Bipod 2](https://imgur.com/BxTBsPW) - $28
-64. [2 piece Laptop & CB](https://imgur.com/Qj1qXAC) - $44
-65. ~~[Camping Axe](https://imgur.com/v7Yy45e) - $12~~ SOLD
-66. [3 piece Gun, Magazine & Bipod 2](https://imgur.com/Hq44ABn) - $57
-68. [Uzi-Type Gun](https://imgur.com/1Jkl4dS) - $17
-71. [Binoculars](https://imgur.com/wlln4zP) - $12
-72. [Small Sword](https://imgur.com/gUZjWlN) - $13
-75. [Hunting Knife](https://imgur.com/R3AMT2h) - $20
-76. ~~[Rifle 2](https://imgur.com/M2YwYQq) - $28~~ SOLD
-77. [Battle Axe 3](https://imgur.com/Uvgj3Gh) - $45
-78. ~~[Camp Shovel](https://imgur.com/RX32j7P) - $18~~ SOLD
-80. [Shotgun 3](https://imgur.com/staqKQu) - $28
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Honesy i agree with you he explains it quite oke and i find him better than the trading guru’s but idk he is hated a lot in the trading comminity.
I woul like to tell you i am profitable but i am not so maybe they are right but i for sure learn a lot from him which for sure is not all bullshit.
So you did not waste your time because if this is already considered a waste of time then i have some bad news for you you ganna waste a LOT more
I read trading in the zone by mike doughlas this i can reccomend this has and had a lot of effect on my life so far
Anyways goodluck

If we would know we would all be billionaires. Facts are there have been a lot of times in which gold for example has gone up A LOT very quickly and the dropped back down. In the late 70s as well as more recently in 2011. You probably have heard that gold it’s for “capital preservation” instead of growth. However the reality is that if you look at say the last 20 or 25 years gold it’s considerably up in comparison to stocks. There’s arguments this time it might not deflate in the same way it did back in early 2010s or the 80s. But there’s also arguments that it will.
Generally speaking it would be cautionary to not have more than say 10% of your portafolio in precious metals. After all they do not have any cash flow.

I honestly hate to think about it. For starters, we’ve likely lost a LOT of junk silver.

I bought a batch of MU calls (10) for its march earnings
Strike = 190 (yes, I am fucking old and conservative so deep ITM)
10 contracts, but may add if it tanks more (and it will).
And near the DAY of earnings depending on IV and theta, I will offload my entire position. this is a "buying into expanding volatility play"
And dear regards, I almost NEVER buy options other than the FD inside a spread so I don't get fucked too bad. But this time, the company is not trading at the level it can. LOT of upside.

**Security** Don’t share your passwords!
Yam’s Under Melt Madness!!!
Reddit won’t let me edit a post so I will post a comment and update that with what has sold!!
**I still have a lot of things from my previous posts, so feel free to look for tons of awesome Pre-33 Gold, Awesome Morgans, Commems , and Type Coins!**
[All Proof](https://imgur.com/a/i899Rf2)
Kitco ask 7:00 PM on 1/15:
- GOLD: $4601/ozt
- SILVER: $91.01/ozt
**90% SILVER UNDER MELT!!**
- [$4.90FV Silver Dimes - $289](https://imgur.com/a/HGTvWkb)
- [$14.75FV Washington Quarters - $889](https://imgur.com/a/mwRX2Zg)
- [$21.50FV 40% Kennedy - $445](https://imgur.com/a/Vbhh5Q2)
- [Lot of 2x Pre-21 Morgans - $135](https://imgur.com/a/MgTwQbU)
**PREMIUM SILVER UNDER MELT!**
- [Lot of 8x Franklin Mint States of the Union Medals (3.47ozt ASW) - $309](https://imgur.com/a/riNW8ce)
- [Silver Casino Token (.6ozt ASW) - $54](https://imgur.com/a/RoccGEm)
- [Lot of 12x 1oz World Coins & Rounds - $1095](https://imgur.com/a/ZqoZNwn)
**10oz BAR UNDER MELT!**
- [PAMP 10oz Good Luck Bar - $915](https://imgur.com/a/DSVh9OA)

**LOT OF 10x ASE & NAVY PRIVY!**
- [Lot of 10x 2015 ASE - $969](https://imgur.com/a/QoL1weX)
- [2025-S Proof ASE Navy Privy CACG PR70DCAM - $389](https://imgur.com/a/91XwZdT)
**AMERICAN GOLD EAGLES!**
- [(2x) 1986 $10 1/4oz American Gold Eagle - $1195ea](https://imgur.com/a/j1JOf72)
**AWESOME MORGANS!**
- [1884-CC GSA Morgan CACG MS63 - $369](https://imgur.com/a/cCkFGW8)
- [1886 Morgan NGC MS66 - $335](https://imgur.com/a/jRH1WoD)
- [1889 Morgan CACG MS65 - $315](https://imgur.com/a/ARd95pY)
- [1891-O Morgan CACG MS63 - $535](https://imgur.com/a/MAHrl2n)
- [1882-CC Morgan CACG MS62 - $385](https://imgur.com/a/YPGX1Mq)
**$5 GOLD INDIAN!**
- [1911 $5 Gold Indian Half Eagle PCGS MS63 CAC - $1789](https://imgur.com/a/gkClLSH)
**NICE PEACE!**
- [1926 Peace PCGS MS64 - $299](https://imgur.com/a/56mkpZz)
**PROOF WALKING LIBERTY!**
- [1940 Proof Walking Liberty Half PCGS PR66 CAC - $689](https://imgur.com/a/CXw2Wts)
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I’m VERY picky about my lifestyle. Need to live somewhere pet friendly with natural light but also a sliding door closet and in unit laundry and a little nook to put my large snake tank shelving unit, needs to be no more than 20 minutes away from work but also physically close to it. Needs to be nice but cheap. Needs a dishwasher and a fridge that has a water dispenser. Job needs to pay above average for my age but it has to be a restaurant because I hate retail and the only options are restaurant or retail because I either hate everything else, can’t physically do it, or feel unsafe OR higher education is needed. I need 2 days a week off (but not next to eachother). I will not work hours that I don’t like over the long term. Shifts can’t be too early in the morning and can’t be longer than 8 hours for my longterm schedule. Coworkers need to be fun. Management needs to be competent. Upper management needs to be ethical. I refuse to ever take a pay cut. but I also refuse to leave my town or go back to college. Etc. very very picky.
Somehow I’ve managed to live exactly this life since I’ve moved out of my parent’s house and dropped out of college. I basically did it all on my own. And since it’s clearly possible, I don’t plan on changing. My next need? I need to be rich. Duh, but It feels so tangible to me. It feels like I’m already living this life. (but I’m not! I aggressively save. Income last year was around $50k and I saved almost $20k.) The feeling that I need to be living in a different tax bracket is so intense that every time I make my daily commute I’m shaking. I the air literally smells different than it used to. Ive never felt such determination in my entire life. My whole being revolves around retiring early. My soul needs it.
I’ve never committed to anything substantial before. It seemed pointless because these financial and time intensive commitments that everyone told me to commit to led to goals that everyone told me I should have. I never wanted any of it. School is the most miserable long term thing I’ve ever done. And you’re telling me now that I’ve finished, I have to go into a lifetime of debt to do it AGAIN? All for a job that sounds fucking MISERABLE in the end?! I have to go through YEARS of school that I have to PAY for to get a job I HATE FOREVER?!! That’s actually life? That’s it? Thats all? That’s hell. I’d rather die. I really really would.
And if I don’t go that route I have to start a business or something, but I don’t want to do that either! Assuming I become successful, which isn’t even guaranteed, I don’t want to be on call to put out fires in the middle of the night that jeopardizes my entire livelihood if ignored. I don’t want to spend the rest of my life doing admin work or dealing with employees or having shipping errors or recalls or flooding or actual fires or god forbid lawsuits. Even if I live in a mansion with a mega yacht, I’ll still never have a day off for the rest of my life. That’s freedom to you guys?!?? Even dropshipping when it was more viable seemed too logistically stressful to be worth it.
So, my options are…
restaurants. Either staying at my current place forever or moving to the one fine dining place across the street. I’m good at it. But there’s an income cap, and it’s so exhausting. The general public makes me very angry a lot of the time and living with that much anger isn’t healthy for me. It’s not a fair job. Any penalties I receive are almost always completely out of my control. The outcome of my job is not at all reliant on whether I do a good job. “I just have to make it through this week”.
Being an influencer. I’m pretty damn good at social media marketing. But I hate it. I hate feeling pressured to post everyday while having an infinite supply of quality ideas and execution. I hate having to keep up with the algorithm all of the time. I hate the fear of irrelevancy no matter how much effort you put in. It’s a race that you can never win. I’ll start a new account, get a few million views and a few hundred followers in a month or two, and either run out of ideas completely or get too busy to keep up a new activity that I never wanted to do in the first place.
Making money with my money. Investing. Trading. Whatever it may be. I love everything finance. I love saving money. I love the actual act of trading in a general sense (nothing to do with day trading) and working my way up in wealth, little by little. It was always my FAVORITE thing to do in video games and I’ve spent thousands of hours doing it. I love budgeting and making smart decisions and watching my money grow. I use APY calculators everyday after work to remind myself of where I could be in 5,10,50 years. I keep track of my earnings every day down to the penny. Every decision I’ve ever made has been with the intent to save as much money as I can. It’s genuinely my hobby, but I’m also obsessed with it. I just can’t imagine doing anything else with my life.
Everyone says the psychology is the hard part, but I’m… dare I say… good at that. It feels like a prank. It feels like a trick. That’s really all there is to it? Finding good rules and sticking to them? Lmfao. It’s how I felt when I quit nicotine cold turkey. You mean all there is to it is that I have self control? Thats the big secret? I’ve never relapsed and I’m almost 4 years clean after vaping a pod a day for over 4 years.
The feeling I had when it all fell into place about a month ago is indescribable. It’s like all of the tears I’d cried feeling stuck and hopeless and like I’d have to get over myself and do something I hated forever made sense. All of the ridicule I’d received for dropping out of college and working food service was worth it. Everything bad that I’ve ever gone through has led me to finding this path, and it was worth it. Even my OCD makes sense to me now.
Sorry this is actually such a cringeworthy and long rant oh my god. I’m genuinely cringing. I’m so sorry to subject you to this. But anyway, it was just a process of elimination. It PERFECTLY suits my personality and my goals, and it’s the only thing I’ve found that does. And this is a LOT of BIG talk for someone who isn’t even trading live yet, but I’ve never been more sure of something in my life. . And if I really can’t trade, I’ll just invest and become a financial adviser instead. I’m sure I’ll get some laughs from this, but I welcome it. I’m laughing at myself right now. Timmy tough knuckles over here. But I’ll still prove you guys wrong.

Hi Guys,

Venmo only on this one

SMALL SPOT LOT - FREE SHIP!
3.5 ozt
**$318.70**

[https://imgur.com/a/p-WNMJU8Y](https://imgur.com/a/p-WNMJU8Y)

**A Slabbed ASE**
**A 2018 1 oz Barbados Trident**
**1922 Peace Dollar**
**4 Pre-64 Quarters**

Wow. I have exactly that. Did emergency fund after mortgage paid off. Then I stacked A LOT. Now I have a HYSA.( The HYSA along with my home I hope will allow me to get back home) PM's I want to hold

Silver and Gold only hold value because people ascribe value to it. It is a mineral that is somewhat scarce and people are willing to trade "stuff" for it.
If an asteroid flew by that had a huge amount of gold on it and someone/some company went and mined it all and brought it back to earth and doubled the amount of available gold it's value would drop like a rock the asteroid is/was.
That is the same idea behind a currency. It is just cotton/cellulose. It really has almost zero actual "value" behind what a person chooses to ascribe to it. When a government can "make more" or "print" more currency beyond the rate the economy is expanding at, then the value of each dollar falls.
That is the ONLY reason Gold has any value. Right now there is ZERO reason for the current price of gold other than speculation. The material itself is not in that high of a demand in industry/dentistry/etc. It's "REAL" value as a useful metal has a value thousands of dollars lower than where it is today.
If a national government can convince enough people to take it's fiat currency backed by nothing other than a promise to pay, then gold really should have no value other than what it can be used for as a material. It is only when fiat currencies are manipulated and devalued that people look to some other asset to hold to try and prevent devaluation.
I would propose that real-estate is a LOT better investment than Gold or Silver. There is no way to make more of it (unless we colonize another planet) so value is almost always maintained no matter which way the market moves relative to a fiat currency. It is less liquid than gold, but that is it's only real downside.
My home and farmland has appreciated in value more than Gold ever would have in the short time I have owned both. The reason? You can't mine more land.

My question is why do you guys think this is manipulation? Isn't this also how a trend looks like when the "market" is testing the breakaway point before a new peak and new low is found? Up, down, up a little more, down, up a little more, down, UP A LOT MADNESS BREAKS OUT, SELL SELL SELL then goes way down... or something like that idk.