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I accepted BTC on webstores for over well over half a decade.. before it was intentionally crippled.
I don't agree with you or any others like you, about anything here.
LTC/BCH/XMR are the only real options right now, nobody uses XLM (I have no idea even what it is).

XMR did alright for me. Not amazing, not god-like, not kool-aid smashing through the wall yelling "oh yeah!" great, but it did alright

You’re totally right that no government is ever going to like the idea of a private, uncensorable currency becoming a major payment rail but that’s not really what I’m aiming for here. I’m not talking about “official” adoption where AFIP blesses Monero; I’m talking about real adoption in the same parallel system that already exists today.
Argentina already runs on layers w/ ARS for taxes, utilities, permits, fines, etc., and then a huge informal layer of USD cash and USDT for actual savings and larger payments by some estimates Argentines hold over $70B in USD outside the banking system, plus massive flows in USDT. Monero would just live alongside the coin people use when they care about privacy, not something the government will ever promote. In that sense, Monero being a “black market coin” isn’t a bug, it’s just the digital continuation of what cash and offshore dollars already are.
The real question I’m trying to explore is: given that the state will never approve of this, how do we still make XMR usable and intuitive enough via local OTC, simple XMR↔USDT flows, community rails, etc. that normal people can realistically use it next to ARS, USD, and USDT in their day-to-day lives?

I accepted BTC on webstores for over well over half a decade.. before it was intentionally crippled.
I don't agree with you or any others like you, about anything here.
LTC/BCH/XMR are the only real options right now, nobody uses XLM (I have no idea even what it is).

XMR did alright for me. Not amazing, not god-like, not kool-aid smashing through the wall yelling "oh yeah!" great, but it did alright

You’re totally right that no government is ever going to like the idea of a private, uncensorable currency becoming a major payment rail but that’s not really what I’m aiming for here. I’m not talking about “official” adoption where AFIP blesses Monero; I’m talking about real adoption in the same parallel system that already exists today.
Argentina already runs on layers w/ ARS for taxes, utilities, permits, fines, etc., and then a huge informal layer of USD cash and USDT for actual savings and larger payments by some estimates Argentines hold over $70B in USD outside the banking system, plus massive flows in USDT. Monero would just live alongside the coin people use when they care about privacy, not something the government will ever promote. In that sense, Monero being a “black market coin” isn’t a bug, it’s just the digital continuation of what cash and offshore dollars already are.
The real question I’m trying to explore is: given that the state will never approve of this, how do we still make XMR usable and intuitive enough via local OTC, simple XMR↔USDT flows, community rails, etc. that normal people can realistically use it next to ARS, USD, and USDT in their day-to-day lives?

It was doomed for actual using as currency years ago.. these days I think XMR is doing the best job of what BTC originally set out to be and do, and has far greater chance of being a widely used currency, and actually being somewhat stable.. I mean it's doing it already, though we will never see it work as intended in a very legal setting on mass due to all the complications.. but as far as money people can use, without government interference, it's doing what I wanted BTC to do from the start.
Most of the gamblers can't speculate on it due to how hard it is to actually obtain at this point, due to all the exchange de-listings etc.. and it is just a huge risk for them, maybe they will stay away.
All this speculation ruined crypto-currency on mass, it is a shame really..

Google isn't really all that accurate as far as price goes. Coin market cap is the better mainstream free option with decent accuracy, and includes a list of exchanges it pulls price data from. If the price of XMR fluctuates, that's where you're going to see it more quickly.
When the price spiked last month it was a long while before it even registered on Google's end.

Both BTC and ETH record the amount sent in each transaction. While XMR never shows a transaction amount so no matter how many records of transactions you have to known bad actors or otherwise they can never say you sent more than a single cent because they don’t know how much was in each transaction, so there is not sufficient evidence to say you were committing crimes

You are closing the door on a viable option for no reason. If all you have is gold, even some 1/20oz you will have difficulty making change in grid down, if that isn’t a concern for you stick with gold. I personally think anything that can hold value against fiat is the answer all PMs, luxury watches, jewelry, some crypto (BTC, XMR), even productive farm land and farm equipment will hold value and appreciate against this paper crap.

Hi. To be honest, there are many options, but I can't vouch for all of them. I can say that for all crypto2crypto swaps in general, I use xgram io. However, there are many alternatives, especially when it comes to XMR. Go to popular aggregators, choose one there, read their KYC policy, and you'll be good to go. GL dude

There’s some quote regarding XMR from Brian Armstrong, which is probably 7 years old at this point, which I would paraphrase as “he likes Monero and would like to list it, but Coinbase isn’t getting regulatory clarity on if they’re allowed to, and therefore wants to play it safe.”
Things have changed now that Armstrong is such good buddies with the President so I’d be surprised if that’s still the excuse, it seems like it’s pretty clear a CEX is allowed to list XMR, so idk what gives either.

These two are the only ones I know of as far as non-custodial exchanges go. Others already mentioned the risks a lot, but BitcoinVN's pool is full with users providing over 3100 XMR. As for WizardSwap I don't know how much XMR is supplied there by users

Well that’s a contradictory statement… organised crime is the 4th largest enterprise in the world , globally estimated to make $870 billion to $4.8 trillion annually. If bitcoin and other currencies like XMR have provided a way of moving money then that alone is valuable. Might not be moral but neither are governments 🤷‍♂️. Think of Black Wednesday in England, our government basically selling the British public out, buying £4billion in a day to try and raise the value of the £ sterling. We only ended up in that situation because currencies have no inherent value now 🤣 . There’s food and bad people in the world but it isn’t black and white who falls in to which category , I would argue that a lot of people involved in organised crime have more morals than politicians and aristocrats.