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* 20x 1986 ASE’s (BU, flashy blast white): $125 each or $2400 for the whole roll [https://imgur.com/a/fYjNWPG](https://imgur.com/a/fYjNWPG) 
Coin singles: *Can risky ship up to 1 Morgan/Peace dollar, 5 dimes, or 2 half dollars*
Peace dollars:
* 1921 (very nice problem free AU): $300 [https://imgur.com/a/8my6dqe](https://imgur.com/a/8my6dqe) 
Morgan dollars:
* 1897-S PCGS MS64 toned: $290 [https://imgur.com/a/jmQK3cZ](https://imgur.com/a/jmQK3cZ) 
Barbers:
* $1.25 FV lot consisting of 1907-S/1911-S/1916-D quarters and a 1901-O half: $94 (way under melt) [https://imgur.com/a/dN9o4Po](https://imgur.com/a/dN9o4Po) 
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Accepting Zelle, PPFF, BTC, and XMR.

I don't know, but I wouldn't do it trough ledger live. Because that way you leak your XMR privacy to ledger company.

This is not FUD.
This is not an attack by Zcash.
This is an honest discussion about the fact that this hard fork will kill Monero fungibility. The fact that carrot has been audited is meaningless : the OVKs will still create two Moneros: those that can be tracked and those that can't.
You say that "XMR will never lose privacy". You are wrong. Once there are OVKs, merchants can ask for one, and CEXs will ask for one two. And those who don't comply will have "tainted" coins.
You don't even understand what you are talking about.

I am not new to Monero or the community. I have been using XMR for many many years, and posting on this sub for at least over a year.
That information by itself does not deduce the wallet address, but could reveal other information or potentially make it easy to follow money trails. The scale of this and whether or not it is possible depends on the strength of the exploit, and exactly what information can be obtained from such an exploit.
My only point is that it will be more information than is available now, and could potentially lead to issues, reduced privacy, or make it easier for scum companies like Chainalysis.
I have faith in the amazing developers of this project, they have never let me down yet. I can't say whether Monero will be better or worse with this change; I only speak of potential dangers as to paint a full picture of the pros and cons, not to say necessarily that this fork should not happen.

Someone buying XMR $10-40 above spot on nonlogs.io for last few days

This will allow Monero to be relisted on major exchanges while still maintaining privacy. XMR will hit $10k USD from this alone.

I disagree. Qubic's failed attack proved my thesis about what decentralization is
If to boil it down, it's the cost of the energy signature. Too cheap to attampt to attack XMR, I see no reason using it long-term

Carrot doesn't show any lineage. Once your XMR lands in a new carrot supported stealth address, the lineage is cryptographically severed. So even if a bank has my view keys, the trail starts with me, and ends with me.
There is no Zcash trap in Monero. Every transaction in the chain is identical. Doesn't matter if I give my view to a lender or buy a goat in a village.
The chain of custody issue falls apart with Monero because in order to have a chain of custody of any XMR, the chain of custody needs to be constant, and every person who touches that XMR has to voluntarily disclose the view key to the same central database/authority or the chain of custody is severed immediately. Its impractical to even try.
With FCMP++ a bank cant even ask "Where did this come from"? Because you literally won't be able to tell them. The accurate answer would be "Any one of these 100,000,000 in the history of Monero". They all look alike hahaha!

Ledger Live itself doesn’t provide swapping; it integrates third‑party providers. Currently their partners don’t support BTC to XMR swaps because of regulatory pressure, so you can’t do it directly in the app. A workaround is to move BTC to an external wallet and use a non‑custodial swap service. Examples include [nullswap.com](http://nullswap.com), [changenow.io](http://changenow.io) or [stealthex.io](http://stealthex.io), which let you send BTC (nullswap.com - only wrapped BTC on BNB Chain) and receive XMR without creating an account. You’ll need to double‑check addresses, network fees and that the service is reputable. Start with a small test transaction and be aware that some providers limit maximum amounts.

I am not a coder or a cryptographer, but I have a background in economic theory. Watching the debate around OVKs (Output View Keys), I see a classic problem of incentives and monetary properties.

1. The Efficiency Argument (The Good) As I understand it, OVKs are technically useful for speeding up wallet synchronization and improving UX. This lowers the user's "time preference" and makes Monero a more convenient medium of exchange. This is undoubtedly good.

2. The Threat to Fungibility (The Bad) However, I am concerned about the idea that this mechanism could become a standard for "voluntary" disclosure to third parties (be they criminals or overreaching governments). There is an iron law in economics and politics: if a tool for coercion or control exists, it will eventually be used. That is the nature of the state and bad actors.

If OVKs become easily exportable or mandated by exchanges, we risk creating two types of Monero:
"Compliant" Monero (with a revealed key)
"Non-compliant/Dark" Monero (without a key)
This destroys fungibility. If 1 XMR is not functionally equivalent to another 1 XMR due to its "transparency status", Monero becomes less effective as money.
A Better Approach I previously suggested a mechanism for 'proving legality' (if the owner chooses to do so) that is safer for the ecosystem overall (see my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/1qeabtn/comment/o00jwsg/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button). While any compliance carries risks, that method places the burden of action on the individual, not the protocol. The Monero community should not facilitate surveillance or censorship at the code level.

Conclusion OVK is a great idea, but only as a strictly local, internal function. It should exist solely to accelerate the user's device, with no automated export features or 'backdoors' for external auditors. We must not sacrifice the nature of sound money for convenience.

Rant over :)

Can you swap BTC to XMR using Ledger Live?

I think XMR is meant to be used like BTC is being used today, not as a get rich quick scheme but for occasional transactions. For everyday transactions, BCH is much better and provides adequate privacy.

Because it's being done so exchanges and merchants accept XMR, due to the auditing feature. Over time the majority of XMR being used will be audited, so the stealth one will become suspicious by default. Therefore non fungible, non usable. Leaving 2 types of users.

Just a couple of nitpicks.
> Monero does offer better privacy because it's privacy by default.
It's not directly because it's privacy-by-default that Monero has better privacy. It has better privacy because the anonymity set is larger. Its anonymity set is larger because it has more users than BCH privacy tools have.
If BCH had 8 billion users and only 1% of them used a BCH privacy tool, then the anonymity set for that privacy tool would be 80 million. If less than 80 million people used Monero, then that BCH privacy tool would have better privacy than Monero. The "inherent fungibility" of a coin isn't as important as XMR maximalists make it out to be.
> Mixed transactions could be viewed as suspicious, and could taint coins. Someone elses coins could get your money flagged.
While a potential downside generally, this is not really a downside compared to Monero. If you're using Monero, you will seem at least as suspicious as a BCH user who used a privacy tool.
It's possible that after sending BCH someone could refuse to credit you what you paid for/deposited because they see it's been through a privacy protocol, but even that's not fundamentally different from Monero. You're always trusting the receiver to honor what they receive.

I doubt the market is confused at all. As far as I can see in the majority of the forums, XMR is the clear winner. The second spot goes to litecoin.
Litecoin and XMR are proof of work, best store of value, and they have privacy features.
Stable coins can be confiscated. Proof of work coins can't be confiscated. So, when I say it's the best store of value, I mean that my litecoin or monero will be mine and no government can contact some company to freeze it.
The same arguments apply to bitcoin, but the future is bleak because of ETF takeover, MSTR leverage play, etc.

Can this not actually be used against CEXs where the user base now requires them to share their view keys so we can actually audit their holdings and confirm they actually hold the XMR they claim on their balance sheets?

I believe the recent FUD is obstruction from Zcash users because anyone that's ever tried to actually use Monero with a hardware wallet or set up an XMR liquidity pool knows what technical hurdles need to be solved to deliver these use cases
They clearly have never used these niche features and interacted with them in order to know how they NEED to be improved

maybe because it doesnt change that XMR is private by default ?

Gold/Silver/Cash/XMR

now, how many do you think bought XMR at 700 and BTC at 120k? I'd say a lot **in this sub** based on constant crying and whining after every 5m red candle**.**