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It's the first transaction, a new user has to buy ETH on a CEX, withdraw to a wallet, bridge to an L2 and keep gas on the right chain before they can do anything, and one wrong step burns real money. Yields and APYs aren't the blocker, the five step setup with no undo button is, which is why the apps pulling in normies now hide the chain entirely like Coinbase's embedded wallets.

**ALL HAIL THE ETERNAL CRAB** 📈 📉 📈 🌊 📈 📉 📈 📉 🌌 📉 📈 📉 🌌 📉 📈 📉 📈 🐋 📈 📉 📈 🌊 📈 🐋 🦀 🐋 📈 🌊 📈 📉 📈 🐋 📈 📉 📈 📉 🌌 📉 📈 📉 🌌 📉 📈 📉 📈 🌊 📈 📉 📈 **$1000--------$2103--------$5000** **2021----------2026----------∞** *Honestly, 2021 as the start of the Crab is generous. ETH hasn't really gone anywhere since late 2017.*

Tom Lee was told by EF to not go over 5%. I suspect he's just buying tiny amounts to keep his streak of ETH buying active.

BTC/ETH rose from 32 to 35 after the dump and stayed near 35 as BTC rebounded but ETH didn’t. Was that due to an ETH sell-off and a rotation into BTC? What caused it?

Welp, seems like back to good old business where markets stay flat while crypto dumps excessively (unfortunatley ETH leading the way). With the democrats starting some serious investigations, seems like the market is undergoing some cleansing (which is a good thing in the long term, e.g. i don't mind Trump's immediate family stop damaging the crypto space), i just hope that they will also come up with some positive regulatory development paralelly so that we don't go back to summer lows..

ETH is a joke

Here we go again? ETH is unstoppable, at least to dump and liquidate longs. Liquidating shorts, well thats another story. Seems like the winning bet

Vitalik posted about this, and I 100% agree with his take. I constantly see people here arguing that ETH needs more use cases. But that never held BTC back. Why not just let ETH be a store of value (SoV)? Chasing utility is a never-ending race against new competitors, often leading to a race to the bottom. Community, trust, and network effects are far more valuable than people realize, and shouldn't be underestimated.

🌍 **Macro** Despite a rebound in U.S. tech stocks on Friday, crypto markets remained under pressure. October nonfarm payrolls rose by 165K, well above expectations of 65K, keeping interest-rate concerns alive. BTC briefly plunged to $73.5K early Monday before recovering above $75K, while ETH touched $2,060. Around $803M in crypto positions were liquidated over four hours, mostly longs. Spot BTC ETFs also recorded $412M in net outflows on Friday, bringing weekly outflows to approximately $1.28B. This week’s U.S. CPI, PPI, and AI cloud earnings could determine whether markets stabilize. ⸻ 📈 **Market Snapshot** • BTC: $74,842.50 (-1.34%) • ETH: $2,127.66 (-5.02%) • NASDAQ: 24,579.43 (+1.09%) • S&P 500: 7,376.86 (+0.31%) • F&G: 29 (previous: 28) ⸻ 🧠 **Market Take** Nvidia-related uncertainty is adding pressure to an already fragile tech market. The company’s board launched an independent investigation into reports that CEO Jensen Huang had become a target of a foreign intelligence operation, while stating there is currently no evidence of compromised company secrets or U.S. national security. Investors are also watching whether AI spending can translate into sustainable returns, with CoreWeave and Nebius earnings due this week. U.S. regulatory scrutiny of crypto platforms is also intensifying. Senator Richard Blumenthal requested investigative records from Binance, Tether, and World Liberty Financial by January 4, 2027. Separately, FinCEN issued an order restricting U.S. financial institutions from processing certain transfers involving MEXC. MEXC says it is reviewing the order and has launched an independent compliance review. These developments put AML controls, sanctions compliance, and platform operations under greater scrutiny. **Key levels:** • Resistance: $76K, followed by $78K • Support: $73.5K–$74K • Trend: Bearish ⸻ 🔥 **Hot Tokens** • **HOT:** \+12% after the HoloFuel network launched and opened HOT conversions for hosting and ecosystem service payments. • **BMT:** \+5% as Bubblemaps teased an investigation into alleged hidden-wallet profits involving a prominent crypto influencer. ⸻ 📰 **Key Updates** • **SEC:** Submitted proposed crypto broker-dealer rule changes covering four securities regulations to the White House for review. • **Russia:** Finalized retail crypto trading rules effective November 17, with an annual purchase limit of RUB 300,000. • **South Korea:** Expected to unveil its Digital Asset Basic Act this month, potentially shifting exchange oversight from registration to licensing. • **EU:** Established a crypto sanctions task force to combat sanctions evasion. • **U.S. 401(k):** Proposed rules allowing alternative assets, including crypto, have entered final White House review. • **Ethereum:** Compatibility risks delayed the Glamsterdam upgrade’s Hoodi testnet fork. • **Bittensor:** Launched a quantum-resistant wallet with three post-quantum signature algorithms and automatic key rotation. • **Hong Kong:** SFC proposed restrictions on misleading names used by unlicensed virtual asset businesses. • **Token unlocks:** ALLO unlocks 88.51% (approx. $26.42M) on Nov 11; RAIN unlocks 5.08% (approx. $197M) on Nov 12; AZTEC unlocks 31.81% (approx. $10.3M) on Nov 13. ⸻ ⚡ **Quick Take** BTC’s brief drop below $74K highlights fragile sentiment, persistent ETF outflows, and pressure from leveraged liquidations. The $73.5K–$74K zone is critical, while U.S. CPI, PPI, and AI earnings could shape the next move.

Lee has wild predictions of 20-50k ETH. If he's convinced of that and actually happens to be a master market manipulator, he's not going to care if he's buying at 1500, 2000, 3000, etc. The timing of his purchases over the past half decade would mean relatively little in the long run.

You’re listing institutional adoption as though that automatically proves Ethereum has fulfilled its original World Computer vision. I’m not denying Ethereum has significant adoption in finance. But tokenizing financial assets, transferring stablecoins, and settling transactions is a much narrower achievement than becoming a comprehensive decentralized computing platform. We’re talking about a World Computer here, not just a programmable financial ledger. There’s a difference between executing smart contracts and actually hosting entire applications, including their frontends, backends, data, and computational workloads. Most Ethereum applications still rely heavily on traditional infrastructure for those functions. Calling something the World Computer doesn’t automatically mean it’s delivering on that ambition. And your argument about ETH demand is exactly what I’m questioning. You’re describing record network activity, growing institutional adoption, and increasing gas consumption, yet that hasn’t translated into sustained ETH price appreciation or stronger fee burning economics. Ethereum’s scaling strategy has made computation cheaper, weakening the relationship between adoption and token value. So why should anyone automatically assume more adoption will eventually make ETH a better store of value than Bitcoin? Listing financial institutions proves there’s demand for Ethereum’s services, not necessarily sustained demand to hold ETH. And since we’re discussing the World Computer, look at what ICP is actually capable of doing. It can host entire applications directly on-chain, including frontend interfaces, backend logic, persistent data, and substantial computational workloads, without requiring the same traditional cloud infrastructure. The UNDP announced a collaboration with DFINITY to explore sovereign cloud infrastructure and AI applications for governments and public institutions. Pakistan has gone further, deploying a sovereign Cloud Engine built on ICP, designed to run government applications, national-scale digital services, and AI powered systems while keeping sensitive data under national control. They’re developing capabilities for sovereign messaging, government software, and eventually broader digital public infrastructure. That’s a considerably more expansive vision of decentralized computing than simply recording financial transactions or settling tokenized assets. Ethereum has clearly found substantial adoption in finance, but if we’re going to call something the World Computer, shouldn’t we judge it by how much of the actual computing stack it can run rather than how many financial institutions use its ledger?

BMNR should honestly just go for 10% at this point given how low the price is. The R:R is much better for them now at these levels. Either ETH becomes a valuable asset worth 8k+ at some point in the future and they make 4x+ on their buys or it fails and bleeds a slow death. Either way, BMNR owning 10% instead of 5% is never gonna be the critical failure point of why a future Ethereum “failed”.

the triple point framing has been around for a while but i think the frustration is less about the concepts coexisting and more about how the messaging shifts depending on what's working... when fees were burning and supply was deflationary the ultrasound money narrative was everywhere... now that supply is inflating again the emphasis moves to store of value and the burn gets downplayed as a valuation driver... it feels reactive rather than a consistent thesis... also the EF mandate calling ETH money on page one is notable because the foundation has historically been careful about that framing for regulatory reasons... not totally sure but it seems like the community wants a clearer answer on what actually drives long term value accrual rather than a menu of narratives that get swapped in and out...

My ETH went down. Smelling a market dump Tomorrow

Sell pumps, buy dumps. Not on the day of the dump though. Never on the day of the dump. 99% of ETH dumps keep dumping.

Hola. En mí caso, mí portafolio cripto solos esTA compuesto por 5 activos: Btc 50% Eth 20% Sol 20% Xrp 5% Link 5% Antes ETH tenía un mayor peso en la cartera, pero con el paso del tiempo, le di más ponderación a sol. Quise sumar bnb, pero es de manera indirecta invertir en una empresa y su sistema de transferencias, así que mejor la dejé y continué poniendo de a puchitos en las 5 mencionadas. A estos 5 los elegí por el uso que se les dá, las funcionalidades que preveen que tendrán, la adopción institucional, el volumen de negociación y las expectativas a largo plazo que generan.

Solana also makes peanuts for revenue lol. Why else do you think it has performed so horribly? The market clearly is tired of coins that trade solely trade off of vibes like "ultrasound money", "world computer", "triple prong asset" or whatever other nonsense ETH bagholders can come up with. And "quality" doesn't mean shit. Any coin can claim it is "quality" lol bro that has nothing to do with price... The market clearly only gives value to two things: money and revenue. ETH is not money. ETH has essentialy 0 revenue. Go post your ai cope-slop elsewhere.

You are the one that has a wild conspiracy theory. I'm stating the facts that go against your theory. Your last comment doesn't make sense at all. Why would they suppress the price if they cap investments at 5%? Be at least consistent. Tom lee doesn't benefit from a low ETH price as he already has 5% of ETH. Neither do I, as I own BMNR, and neither does anyone in this sub-reddit.

Which is nothing compared to how much they used to purchase. It ain't too difficult to understand that when ETH moves up, there is more excitement by retail investors, and they can ATM more. Just look at their purchase on Aug 31, when ETH was moving up a lot, that was 53k ETH vs 8.5k ETH 6 days ago. If your theory would be correct, they would have purchased more now than back then (when ETH was 2.5k USD). The opposite is the case however.

They purchased $19.4 million dollars worth of ETH just 6 days ago. C'mon try harder.

Don't know what you used, but I sorted the top 100 on coingecko for 1h performance, and ETH is at the bottom.

When I look at ETH's current performance, I genuinely wonder how we will ever manage to reclaim our previous all-time high, let alone surpass it. Confidence seems to be fading. Retail investors appear increasingly disillusioned, and there is hardly any excitement left. Many of those still holding ETH are probably just hoping to eventually break even so they can get out without taking a loss. At the same time, cryptocurrencies other than Bitcoin seem to have almost completely disappeared from the public's radar. For most people, crypto simply no longer seems to matter. What concerns me most is the question of future demand: Why would wealthy individuals, companies, or institutional investors even have an incentive to acquire large amounts of ETH? What is the long-term investment thesis that is supposed to attract fresh capital into Ethereum and generate sustainable demand?

You have just confused 'Ethereum' - the network, with 'ETH' (or 'ether') - which is the asset. Ethereum is still 'the world computer', it is being used by the biggest financial institutions in the world to tokenize assets ('RWAs') onto. Users include Blackrock - the largest asset manager; JP Morgan - the largest bank by market capitalization; UBS - the biggest wealth manager; Fidelity - the 3rd biggest asset manager, etc etc. As well as RWAs the network also carries more value in stablecoins than every other chain combined, and more value in DeFi than every other chain combined. Rollups have been built on-top of Ethereum by Sony, LG, Robinhood, Deutsche Bank, and almost every major exchange except Binance. Public goods projects include digital IDs in places like Buenos Aires and Bhutan; fundraising by traditional institutions like Unicef and crypto-native projects like Gitcoin. We could go on, but you get the idea... Ethereum the network is the world computer. ---------- 'ETH' though isn't a computer, it's an asset that can be used to buy computation on Ethereum. Lots of the recent upgrades to Ethereum have been designed to increase the network's capacity, through scaling the L1 and by reducing costs for L2s. This has meant that the supply of blockspace increased faster than the demand, meaning it got cheaper. As ETH is used to buy blockspace, this reduced demand for ETH the asset. Demand for blockspace has increased over this time however, and continues to do so. More gas (the measure of 'computation') is being used per second now than at any time before, a lot more than even at the peak of the NFT craze. But users aren't noticing because blockspace supply has increased so much too. At some point in the future the increasing demand will start pushing up against the increased limits again, but the longer that can be put off the better, as although it keeps the demand for ETH down, it also allows much more use/adoption... which is surely the point of a blockchain! As far as the 'store of value', in order to use the network you have to buy gas, and you can only buy gas with ETH. Demand for gas will increase and so demand for ETH will increase. This is the reason it's a better store value than BTC. Demand doesn't only come from the hope that there will always be a 'greater fool' to buy the coin and speculate on further increases... entities actually use it and so organic demand is up-only. Electric Capital wrote a decent report looking specifically at stablecoin adoption growth, but the principle is similar for other types of tokenization as well. https://electriccapital.substack.com/p/beyond-stablecoins-the-case-for-ethereum

The idea that there's only bitcoin and altcoins is just pure nonsense at this point. Including ETH in this case is especially ridiculous considering the Biden SEC basically said it wasn't a security, just like bitcoin. But the real problem is that it just exposes your complete lack of knowledge of the kinds of assets that exist out there. For example coins of defi protocols that earn a share of what the protocol makes don't really care what a US regulatory body says they are. They earn money and thus they will find buyers. To lump that into one category with memecoins that have no purpose whatsoever other than pump n dump just makes no sense. That's like saying stocks and hookers are the same thing.

Then you figured it out late. At the latest DAO fork should have already told you that code as never law. Or really, realizing how much ETH had been left to founders and investors, even earlier than that. It started as a plutocracy, just like Urbit.