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Of course I’m in, cant close down a 77x leveraged position when its down 3200%. ETH. The futures contract has been open for a year now. Im mentally ready for another year.

In December of 2018, people were miserable about the price. I remember the ethtrader doomer posts. But at the same time, there were gem comments sprinkled in there about all of the innovation happening. I clearly remember using Uniswap and being in awe at the same time that price was crashing. You are confusing enthusasim and hope for Ethereum the network, with enthusasim ans hope for ETH's price. Yes, people felt miserable that it went from 1400 to 80 in a span of a year. But no one looking at the tech at the time felt bad about the potential of the technology. And why would you doubt that I would not want to be wrong? What, you think I want to lose money, and be proven wrong to people in my life, and look like a total idiot for telling people throughout the last decade that Ethereumn is great and going to change the world? Get your head out of your ass

Has anyone compared narrow-range LP returns against simply holding ETH over a full bull market? I'd imagine the difference gets pretty ugly during strong trending periods, even with decent trading volume.

That 80% APR looks a lot less exciting when you compare it to just holding ETH.

Something about concentrated liquidity on Uniswap that doesn't get enough attention is how your token exposure changes as prices move. Imagine providing ETH and USDC liquidity in a relatively narrow range. ETH starts pumping, trading volume increases and your position collects fees. Looks great on the dashboard until you realize the pool has been gradually converting your ETH into USDC as the price climbs. If ETH moves above your range, you're sitting entirely in USDC instead of benefiting from further ETH appreciation. It's a totally different exposure from a directional wager on moon where you're betting on price movement without holding the underlying asset or providing liquidity. Neither structure guarantees better returns, but they react very differently to the same market trend. Fee revenue alone doesn't tell the full story. Comparing the final position value against simply holding the original tokens seems like a much better way to judge LP performance.

You're not wrong. I've been in since 2017 and the early days atleast had hope. It's pretty clear by now that crypto has no real use case. ETH is still churning the same shitty projects, but most people's attention is focused on AI. It would be great if the ETH foundation could be more forward thinking and look at the big picture, but it's too bogged down by technical people whose too stuck up building up obscure features that the general market doesn't care about.

At this point I’d buy \~750 Solana tokens which is still well under its 2025 ATH and stake it at RH for just under 4% annual. SOL and ETH are the primary asset tokenization platforms too which is still in its infancy.

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The idea alone, from US waking up, is enough to dump price of ETH. Truly amazing

If ETH flips BTC you can have all of my BTC lol.

I think as soon as BTC breaks below 80k, I am close to my TP on ETH getting triggered. 0,03 didn’t hold, 0,029 didn’t. I am expecting an ETH free fall to somewhere around 2k if BTC really breaks that line…

**Four data points plus arbitrary lines is curve-fitting.** The author admits the Fibonacci levels mean nothing. Inverting a chart to find bottoms has no economic basis, because supply cuts don't create a hard price floor. **Supply isn't the main driver anymore.** Annual issuance is under 1%. ETF flows, liquidity, and macro conditions now move price far more than halvings do. **"No more gains" doesn't mean "insecure."** Security depends on the block reward times price, plus fees. A flat price at $60K+ still funds near-record hashrate. The long-run "security budget" question is a legitimate debate, but on a decades-long horizon, not 10 years. **The Monero comparison is weak.** Monero is CPU-mined and much smaller, so hashpower could be redirected to it. Bitcoin runs on specialized ASICs that an attacker can't simply rent at the scale needed. **The biggest hole: Ethereum has no miner reward.** It switched to proof-of-stake in 2022. The whole thesis rests on miner rewards providing security, yet the proposed successor doesn't use them. Staking has its own trade-offs, which the author never addresses. ETH/BTC has also trended down for years, so the "flippening" hasn't shown up in the data. **Internal contradiction.** An asset whose upside flattens doesn't have to fail. Gold doesn't need halving-style rallies to stay valuable.

Having USDC successfully arrive on Base but no ETH to move it is such an annoying introduction to bridging lol. I'd always check which native gas token the destination requires and leave a small reserve before moving everything. Definitely verify that the ETH you're receiving is on Base rather than mainnet. I use Moon for price direction speculation but actual cross chain transfers need a completely different checklist.

As someone who’s never really understood the point of crypto, can someone explain why ETH is even worth what it is? Is it based on energy needed per coin? Or just simply supply demand? Is it tied to something physical? Couldn’t a larger power like a bank or country just refuse transactions of those and make people use their own coin? What’s stopping govs from banishing these back to the shadow realm and dark web? I understand anything can be shut down at any time, but atleast companies have tangible assets to liquidate and balance sheets.

I shorted ETH with $100 at 20x leverage on Kraken and paid: $16 opening fee $16 closing fee $5 margin fee Made $7 gross but lost $30 after fees. A $1482 price drop breaks even but that doesn't even happen in a year... Ideally, I want to short BTC from $80,144 to $79,673 (red to blue line in screenshot) using $100 at 20x leverage. That’s $11.76 gross profit, but Kraken’s fees wipe it out. Any platforms that allow shorting with zero or very low fees so I can keep most of the profit?

Yeah, that’s pretty much where I’m at too. A long-term ETH thesis can be valid without needing BTC to "die" first. I’d rather trade the regimes we actually get than build around a 10-year succession story.

Seeing similar sell walls appear across the USDC and USDT pairs is definitely worth monitoring, but I'd want to know whether those orders actually execute or disappear as price approaches. A big wall can influence behavior without representing genuine selling intent. I keep an eye on ETH direction with Moon too and I wouldn't assume every suspicious looking order book pattern guarantees another drop.

The charts are cool but this feels like someone who learned just enough about log scales and fib levels to build a whole religion around them. That Monero attack mention is doing a lot of heavy lifting for the security argument but those were very different circumstances than what Bitcoin faces. I’m not sold on the ETH flip either. The security model difference is the whole point of Bitcoin for a lot of people and Ethereum moving to proof of stake didn’t exactly convince the hard money crowd it’s a better long term store of value. The halving diminishing returns logic makes sense on paper but markets don’t read white papers. We’ve had plenty of people calling the top and bottom based on perfect mathematical models only to get steamrolled by a black swan or a random Elon tweet.

Man you have quite a strong opinium. Often the universe does not care about opinions. But as an ETH holder I would not mind if coming true.

I held for 6 years in total. I sold the majority of mine roughly a year ago around this time. I still have a handful of ETH, but I will dump the rest the next time it goes above 4K. I’m probably just going to toss it into the VOO.

I like ETH, it was the first coin i was bullish on, but this is just cope, you need to de-risk enough that you stop getting emotional when people criticize it.

I like this and I believe this is what will happen. What I don’t understand is how and what kind of impact that will have on the price of the ETH I currently hold. If supply can increase that puts a top on token price, doesn’t it?

Its relative cost, that means how much it costs would depend on how many are currently mining it. ETH is also relative cost, you get the reward based on your principal take. In any case, it has nothing to do with what were talking about, you missed the point entirely, Bitcoin is inflationary like ETH, so clearly thats not the smoking gun.

Ambire is a smart-contract wallet rather than a plain key-pair wallet like Rabby, which is the main practical difference. That lets it do things like paying gas in tokens instead of ETH and batching several actions into one transaction, and it simulates transactions before you sign. Worth knowing that a smart account is a contract on-chain, so you're also trusting its contract code, so check whether it's been audited. On privacy, no wallet is fully private by default: whichever RPC node it talks to sees your IP and addresses, so look at which RPC it uses and whether you can swap in your own. I'd try it with a small amount first and keep your Rabby setup until you're comfortable.

Français ici, qui fait pas mal de DeFi. Petite précision quand même : la loi n'est pas encore passée. \- L'amendement I-3898 a été adopté par l'Assemblée le 16 octobre, 38 voix contre 37, contre l'avis du gouvernement. Mais c'est seulement la première lecture. \- Le vote de toute la partie recettes du budget a été reporté. Si elle est rejetée, l'amendement tombe avec. \- Ensuite, le Sénat peut le supprimer ou le réécrire. Et en cas de 49.3, le gouvernement ne garde que les amendements qu'il veut. \- S'il passe, il ne vise que les conversions faites à partir du 1er janvier 2027. Rien de rétroactif. Le périmètre compte aussi. Seuls les stablecoins « monnaie électronique » au sens de MiCA sont visés (USDC, EURC). Crypto contre crypto reste en sursis, tout comme DAI/USDS, USDe ou l'or tokenisé. Pour l'USDT, ce n'est pas tranché. Et le calcul change : on passerait du portefeuille global à un prix moyen pondéré jeton par jeton. Côté DeFi, si ça passe : \- prendre ses bénéfices en USDC sur un DEX devient une cession imposable, même sans jamais toucher un euro ; \- les pools ETH (ou autre)/USDC deviennent un casse-tête : l'AMM vend de l'ETH contre de l'USDC en continu, et personne ne sait comment sera traitée une sortie de pool avec une autre composition qu'à l'entrée ; \- une liquidation qui vend ta garantie en USDC devient une vente imposable, en plus de la perte ; \- le farming et les rééquilibrages en stablecoins : chaque passage par l'USDC compte ; \- beaucoup vont sans doute basculer vers DAI ou USDe pour rester en sursis, et troquer un risque fiscal contre un risque de dépeg. Du coup : si le texte passe, vous faites quoi avant janvier ? Sortir vos stablecoins en euros, basculer vers BTC, ETH ou DAI, ne rien changer et payer le moment venu, ou autre chose ? Et concrètement, qu'est-ce que vous changeriez dans vos positions DeFi ?