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Ethereum / Euro
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I don't look at it that way. Tether is not like USDC. They are OG and will make moves for clients, themselves, and big users like Justin Sun. Tether is also a buyer and a seller of BTC. They are also a buyer of treasuries. They benefit from interest hikes. They see the board based on flows. Rate cut and they loose money. Hikes they benefit because they take the exchange cash and invest it. Lutnick, Commerce secretary, firm also are owners of USDT. Europe is about to freeze out USDT. Senator Blumenthal just called to see their records as he drills into the president. When I see those tweets about about some exchange printing like $300M, I look at as exit liquidity. Retail thinks pump and gets eager while the whales are about to take retails money and cash out. the candle is sitting on the 200 day avg on the daily. This used to shake BTC more but IBIT has slowed that. ETH also has gotten better to its impact. As well as Hype which may be based on how they are set up and built. Never permeated their system and chain. So it's going to get interesting. https://preview.redd.it/rd0b9x63uf1i1.png?width=861&format=png&auto=webp&s=8708da877726a6c3676ffeff83fde8acf398ab12

I’m dumping ETH if it ever gets back to $3,500. Six years of dead money and missed opportunities. At some point, the opportunity cost outweighs whatever upside you’re still hoping for. Meanwhile, Vitalik keeps flip-flopping on Ethereum’s use case and long-term direction, which does little to inspire investor confidence. It’s hard to stay bullish when even the vision for the asset seems to be constantly shifting.

You’re correct. I should be more specific. ETH isn’t a particularly valuable asset and has no real use case to prove otherwise. It for sure has fundamental use cases but these examples aren’t lucrative I was using “use case” in the context of driving demand to ETH. And I think most people know that’s where the criticism comes from but makes a semantic defense of Ethereum itself

No, both statements aren't true. ETH has very real use cases. It's used to pay transaction fees, secure the network through staking, provide collateral throughout DeFi, and pay for L2 settlement and data availability. The actual argument you're trying to make is about *value capture*, not utility. Whether all that activity generates enough demand for ETH to justify its valuation is a perfectly legitimate question, but that's an entirely different argument from claiming ETH has no use cases. Conflating the two is exactly the communicative problem you're describing.

That ETH price is interesting 👀

We are eternally in a communicative hangup where Ethereum has tons of use cases but the people being critical are talking about ETH having no real use cases. Both statements are true but speak to different arguments

The challenge is identifying whether momentum is actually building or whether you're just seeing random volatility. I've also been researching Moon for directional ETH positions. It's a different way to approach price movements

When price gets this volatile, having a directional thesis and a clear exit matters more than trying to catch every move. Moon is another platform I've been researching for ETH Up/Down positions

You'd be better off predicting the BTC price. The ETH price is basically completely irrelevant when it comes to directional moves in this market, considering we have been correletaed with BTC above 0.90 for the past 10 years now.

The post quantum discussion seems far more significant for Ethereum's long term credibility than whatever ETH does this week. I like that the upgrade debate is happening before the problem becomes urgent. I use moon mainly for the market side of crypto but the actual infrastructure decisions are what determine whether these networks remain useful years from now.

On CoinGecko just now (about 12:35 PM ET Nov 13) BTC is around $68.5k and ETH around $1,925, with ETH up roughly 13% over 7 days by their table, so the picture is choppier than a straight slide. Moves like this usually come from leverage unwinding and thin liquidity rather than one headline, so I'd watch funding and open interest alongside price. A clean reclaim of recent support on volume would tell me more than any single news item.

I used to believe that, but no. The network has proven it can work fine with ETH at $1000, and with ETH at $5000, even while TVL keeps going up.This makes any pice increases unnecessary, speculative, and dangerous for holders. "ETH secures the network" is also something that nobody cares about. The bitcoin network is at the brink of a catastrophic attack every hour of every day, and this doesn't stop BTC from being valued at $70K.

I just bought my last batch of HGH with stable coins on ETH. Obviously the decentralized protocol matters when the product is shady. Fees are more than on base but less than you would pay visa or master card to process the transaction. I use base to buy most of my peptides and it has worked great for me.

Real money, real exchange fills, after all fees. Oct 22 to the Nov 12 close: * Holding the same cryptos: **-20.02%** * The AI: **-4.63%** **Week by week (holding vs the AI)** * Oct 21 to 25: -3.44% vs -1.05% * Oct 26 to Nov 1: -2.84% vs -0.76% * Nov 2 to 8: -7.77% vs -1.44% * Nov 9 to 12: -7.57% vs -1.45% **By crypto (held vs traded)** * BTC: -15.06% vs -3.54% * ETH: -18.38% vs -2.32% * SOL: -23.63% vs -2.96% * XRP: -23.76% vs 0.00% * XLM: -15.39% vs 0.00% * ZEC: -21.52% vs -11.27% * NEAR: -29.88% vs -18.04% **What this does and doesn't show** * It lost money every single week. It just lost a lot less. * Three weeks of a falling market say nothing about a rising one. In my tests on past years it finished behind plain holding in the strongest bull years. That's the trade: give up some of the top to skip most of the fall. * Today's drop isn't in these numbers yet. I'll add it in the comments after the close. * It can only trade. It has no withdrawal access, so funds stay in your own exchange account. Every trade goes into a public log that is sealed every hour and anchored in Bitcoin, so nobody can edit the record afterwards, me included: [https://botsfolio.com/track-record/real-money](https://botsfolio.com/track-record/real-money) Honest question: would you give up part of a bull run to cut drops like this by about three quarters? Curious where people here land. Disclosure: I build Botsfolio, an AI that trades inside the user's own exchange account. This fall is the first real test it has had. I'd rather show the whole record than a highlight.

The annoying part is that BTC spot charts won't give you the same signals as individual options contracts. Implied volatility and time decay change the whole price structure. I'd explore getting historical contract data through an API and recreating the indicator externally. I follow BTC and ETH on moon too but that wouldn't solve the Pine Script compatibility issue.

The only logical explanation is that when he buys ETH, he shorts with leverage at the same time.

Six years with only minor changes? C'mon, we can be upset with the price without being factually indefensible about the tech. Ethereum transitioned from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake, introduced staking withdrawals, and dramatically reduced L2 transaction costs through blobs. Stablecoins, DeFi lending, and tokenized assets are substantial use cases, whether or not they've translated into the price appreciation investors expected. Decentralization and government regulation aren't mutually exclusive. Your argument about inflation is particularly strange. Wealthy people generally hold assets that appreciate with inflation, while workers often see their purchasing power eroded when wages fail to keep up. There's a legitimate argument that ETH has underperformed expectations, but that doesn't make the technological progress or adoption "very minor" and you investor-only types really need to separate the two. And if you wanna get technical: * November 13, 2020: ETH $476 * November 13, 2026: ETH $1,950

Last month Tom Lee said BMNR stock was going to $3500 because of the "Alchemy of 5% (of ETH)". Since then the stock is down 50%.

ETH is up +2.3% since Feb 2021, why is everyone so mad?

Maybe too bullish for once. BTC hard rejected of $70K and ETH didn't even get a sniff of $2K. Feels like when we lost $3K back in January 26, almost a year ago.

Thinking long-term I want to rotate my ETH (only about $10K or so) into BTC (I have 1.5BTC). This is essentially just a hedge/compliment to my more traditional investments (mostly index fund type ETFs) and will keep things simple moving forward (I have a small daily DCA into a BTC ETF for actively accumulating and keep the actual BTC in cold storage but treat them like 1 asset). I know, nobody has a crystal ball but looking at the ratios it seems as if now is not the best time to do it?

ALRIGHT - FUCK THE FOLKS WHO DOWNVOTED ME. OP - HERE'S SOME EVIDENCE: \*\*That hash is spam in your history\*\* It is on Arbitrum - it is an address poisoning batch. I'm guessing a bot account created 52 fake transfers of counterfeit tokens named to look like USDC, USDT, ETH and ARB. Each one actually copies a real payment (same addresses and amount) - pointing to an address that matches the actual receiver. VV IMP: **Your address appears as the sender in one of them - but you did not sign it - SO THE FUNDS DID NOT MOVE.** \*\*MY Understanding of what happened\*\* Your perps positions were closed. Closing a position needs a signature from your wallet but a scammy token cannot possibly do that. I am guessing that this points to an exposed private key or recovery phrase (or an exposed session key on the perps platform). **Your two suspects:** \- The Chrome flaw was patched 9 Nov.. Google has not said what the attackers did with it - there aren't any public reports on this \- A normal top-up payment signs one transfer - it does not expose your key. Open that transaction on the explorer and check that it is a plain transfer and not an approval. \*\*How to tell from the chain\*\* Look at the transactions where the real funds left. 1. If they were sent \*by your own address\* - the key or recovery phrase is compromised. 2. If \*another address\* pulled the tokens - you had an open approval. Check revoke.cash. 3. Check whether your address now shows as a smart account delegated to a contract tha you might not know. If you post your public address and the hashes of the transactions where funds left, people here can trace where they went. Share the public address only. I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO DM ANYMORE LOL

SPY, ES, QQQ, NQ, NVDA, TSLA, BTC and ETH Support and Resistance, Pivots and Highest Volume Levels for Day Traders, Nov 13

BTC at $69,499 is down 4.1% over 24 hours, while ETH is off 2.2% and SOL is nearly flat at +0.2%, so BTC is leading this leg lower. With Fear & Greed at 20 and perp funding roughly flat, much of the leveraged excess may already be cleared; from here, spot demand may matter more than another funding-driven squeeze. I’d watch whether buyers absorb supply rather than assume extreme fear alone marks a bottom.

Lol. I've 0 position in ETH. Did some staking years ago & took profits when it made sense.