ETHEUR
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Why would you buy an ETH etf and also ETH? Surely just choose one or the other... And even then, why an ETF when you can gain direct exposure?

25% actual BTC
30% BTC ETF
10% actual ETH
15% ETH ETF
10% BTC perp long
5% ETH perp long
5% ADA perp long

90% BTC 10% ETH. I know it's not what you want to hear, but it's the truth. After a decade in crypto the longer I go the more I become a Bitcoin maxi. There are no fundamentally valuable alts.

**If you were building a crypto portfolio for 2029, what would it look like?**
The goal would be to maximise gains while still keeping the portfolio relatively low-risk (by crypto standards).
Excluding BTC and ETH, which altcoins would you personally hold for the next 3 years and why?
I’m interested in hearing different opinions and especially the reasoning behind the coins people choose. Keen to hear what you guys think.

Berkshire is basically the equivalent of MSTR or BMNR but for USD instead of BTC and ETH.

Kitco spot gold 4343.30, Silver 63.71, Platinum 1753.00
Prices good until market opens Sunday 5pm CST.
[Proof](https://coindex.app/a/KTlLZ0)
Detailed pics linked to coin description. Click on the Numista link for more info on the coin.
|Price|Qty|SILVER|
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|$125|1|[2025 American Silver Eagle - Marine Privy in OGP](https://coindex.app/a/AZKlV7) 1oz ASW|
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|$90|5|[2012 Panda 1oz - Singapore International Coin Fair](https://imgur.com/a/sM1EJ9z) Proof in OGP plastic. 1oz ASW. Mintage 10,000 [Mintage info](https://imgur.com/a/Orks47f)|
|$90|3|[2012 Panda 1oz - Philadelphia ANA World's Fair of Money](https://imgur.com/a/sOsSG3C) Proof in OGP plastic. 1oz ASW. Mintage 10,000 [Numista](https://en.numista.com/328087) [Mintage info](https://imgur.com/a/yYRXm9H)|
|$90|3|[2013 Panda 1oz Berlin World Money Fair](https://imgur.com/a/nOpf9XR) Proof in OGP plastic. 1oz ASW. Mintage 10,000 [Mintage info](https://imgur.com/a/Abkdh3l)|
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|Price|Qty|GOLD|
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|||GREAT BRITAIN|
|$1111|1|[2023 Great Britian £25 Britannia 1/4oz .9999](https://coindex.app/a/mzYvdv) 474th of 500 struck 0.25oz AGW|
|$1111|1|[2023 Great Britian £25 Britannia 1/4oz .9999](https://coindex.app/a/CtkV4S) 478th of 500 struck 0.25oz AGW|
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|||USA|
|$4398|2|[2022 $50 American Gold Buffalo .9999 fine](https://coindex.app/a/VdDxwK) 1oz AGW|
|$4378|4|[$50 American Gold Eagle - 1994, 1998, 1998, 2010](https://coindex.app/a/8oQcll) BU, in flip. 1oz AGW|
|$4199|1|[1872 $20 Liberty](https://coindex.app/a/ReWaa8) ungraded, circulated condition 0.9675oz AGW **BELOW MELT**|
|$4199|1|[1910 $20 St Gauden](https://coindex.app/a/p8p8pj) ungraded, circulated condition 0.9675oz AGW **BELOW MELT**|
|$2152|1|[1896 $10 Liberty](https://coindex.app/a/sx7eLl) MS60 in Old Green Holder (OGH) 0.4837oz AGW|
|$2152|1|[1906 $10 Liberty](https://coindex.app/a/UKhCne) MS60 in Old Green Holder (OGH) 0.4837oz AGW|
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|||SWITZERLAND|
|$1105|2|[Switzerland Valcambi / Scotiabank 1/4oz round in assay .9999 fine](https://coindex.app/photo/6ML8uj8) 0.25oz AGW|
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|Price|Qty|PLATINUM|
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|$1995|1|[1998-W American Platinum Eagle $100 PROOF. PCGS PR69 DCAM](https://coindex.app/a/QIdLoV) 1oz APW|
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|Price|Qty|FREE STUFF with any purchase|
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|$free|1|[Isle of Man Platinum Noble Box for 4 coin set - 1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/10oz](https://coindex.app/a/sAOcIU)|
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**SHIPPING - PLEASE READ**: I double pack and double label each shipment. I will send you a picture of the receipt after drop off.
**No international shipments.**
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|PAYMENT OPTIONS ACCEPTED|Fee|
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|Yes|Zelle, CashApp, Crypto - USDC|no fee|
|Yes|Bank wire|no fee|
|Yes|Venmo F&F only, (10+ flair only) no notes|no fee|
|Yes|Varo Money|no fee|
|Yes|Bank of America, direct acct-to-acct transfer|no fee|
|Yes +3%|Crypto - BTC / ETH|\+3%|
|Yes|US Postal Money Order|no fee|
|NO|PayPal|NO|
**TRADES / OFFERS**: No trades. No offers under $10,000.
**MIDDLEMAN**: Happy to use a middleman (u/HalfDeafYeller). Buyer covers all additional costs.
**AUTHENTICITY**: If possible to do so, I will verify each item via Sigma. I reserve the right to fix typos.
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**QUESTION OF THE DAY**: Curious George, beloved children's book character, was what type of animal?

That's more than I've bought in the 10+ years since I started. I've never bought any because I'm an idiot, or at least not clairvoyant, and just couldn't fathom it being worth more than a grand or two, so I invested into other coins/tokens. I do hold BTC, I just don't buy it. When the dip hit this time, I didn't want to make the same mistake, relying on ETH to carry the load after the bounce, but with such uncertainty currently, I didn't want to expose myself too much in the event that the market didn't recover. So I just got Coinbase One and the Coinbase credit card, earning rewards on stuff I'm going to buy anyway. Lend out USDC until the due date, pay it off, deposit more USDC, rinse repeat. It basically pays for your Coinbase One account, and gets you some coin too.

> Huge existing investment in ETH by institutions
Do we want to punish them for investing in Ethereum?

Sadly, not a solution I am particularly happy with.
**Solution space:**
* market-based
**Doesn't account for:**
* People assigning their withdrawal address to a contract
* People trading ownership of validators without ever actually exiting them
* Huge existing investment in ETH by institutions
**Philosophical objections:**
* Spinning a solo validator up and down should be essentially free
* Rotating keys for a solo validator should be free
The strategy this proposal degenerates into is to tokenize every single 32-ETH validator. Someone pays for each validator exactly one time ever (on deposit), then users can trade the exit/withdrawal rights to the validator by trading the token representing the validator. The LST provider might even be able to subsidize entry fees by covering them with their validation fees. This makes staking "free" when someone chooses to tokenize their 32 ETH with this company, instead of tokenizing with a competitor or solo staking.

ETH keeps auto converting to WETH on metamask

BTC or ETH, as was said

>**Send attestation,**
>**Verify aggregation,**
>**Run validation.**
~Daily haiku until we’re at least at 0.178 on the ETH/BTC ratio or highest market cap

The most interesting attempt I've seen so far at a solution to LSTs capture is this: https://x.com/intocryptoast/status/2085831237881762274
It basically suggests charge an entry fee in ETH for every validator of a minimum size, and then ratchet down yield for higher contentrations of stake. (larger validators)
I think this idea is interesting because it respects the idea that you can't effectively stop sybil, but you can make it more expensive. If you get a better rate for a smaller stake, LSTs could always just sybil a bunch of small validators, however if every validator pays an entry, then at some point it just becomes more profitable to stack more onto an existing large validator set than the sybil attack.
The downside is that it would create an up front cost for new stakers, which would take time to pay off. The exact numbers would have to be tuned for something reasonable. If people really want to encourage solo-staking and dicinsentivize LST caputre, this is more along the lines of something that actually makes sense imo

Depends on your goal, here's what I'd recommend after 6+ years working FT and investing in the crypto industry.
\- safer and long term holds: go with the big names, BTC, ETH, SOL, SUI (not XRP, Cardano, they're dead)
\- riskier, shorter hold, higher upside: find a project that's about to launch, get involved in their community and get in early. Or look for well funded projects in the 200 - 400 market cap listing on coingecko .com (expect it to go to zero)
These are very early startups, very young, very risky.
Not advice but Euclid Protocol is one of my favorite projects that we've worked with for years and will launch in 1 - 2 months.

Probably BTC, ETH, SOL, XRP (Larger market cap coins with institutional support). Do some research and go with the one you have the most conviction on.

Can someone help me understand how @vbuterin achieves his n-of-m with guardians in real life. Particularly how do you even have such a conversation with the potential guardians where it doesn’t immediately become an invest in my pet project kind of relationship and more to the point how does one today join people into a multisig without them knowing how much ETH is in there and that becoming all consuming to them?

lol, there's only one mainstream crypto that offers privacy as a feature, and BTC and ETH are NOT one of them.

But why ETH price is in the toilet?

I don't think that you are misrepresenting the research but no I do not agree. I found [this post](https://ethresear.ch/t/the-shape-of-issuance-curves-to-come/20405) quite convincing, and I just find the arguments that this proposal would hurt big stakers more than solo stakers more convincing. But my biggest fear is not the composition of the validator set (solo stakers are marginal in that sense anyway) but about the total ETH that is amassed by these big institutions, and the role of ETH as the central asset on Ethereum. I fear that we will in time see governance on Ethereum being captured, and you can see a version of that playing out today.
Closer to what?! Well, let's not forget that Lido doesn't decide anything about who stakes or not. People decide whether or not they want to stake with Lido. Lido stake consists of a heterogenous group of people, each with their own margins and preferences for when to enter or exit. I don't see how becoming relatively more profitable as solo stakers compared to Lido (or relatively less loss-making, I should say) than the status quo is anything other than a win. You will just have a very hard time convincing me that someone who stakes with Lido is *less* sensitive to a drop in yield than a solo staker. The conviction of a solo staker is an order of magnitude greater, and staking with Lido carries risks that become a lot pricier at lower yield.

Helpful template for y'all:
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**Your post advocates a**
( ) cap-based ( ) identity-based ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante
approach to incentivize solo staking. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work.
**One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea:**
( ) Nobody will be able to enter the staking set anymore.
( ) Large stakers can split their stake up into a bunch of small 32 ETH validators.
( ) Large stakers can cheaply rent a bunch of IP addresses to assign validator traffic to.
( ) Large stakers can anonymize their staked ETH to hide the very fact that they are a large staker.
( ) Solo stakers will be incentivized to stake with an institution instead of solo staking.
**Specifically, your plan fails to account for**
( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it in most countries globally
( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority for authorizing new validator entries
( ) People assigning their withdrawal address to a contract
( ) People trading ownership of validators without ever actually exiting them
( ) Asshats
( ) Potential dangers of weird unproven consensus mechanisms
( ) Huge existing investment in ETH by institutions
( ) Eternal arms race involved in all approaches to identifying how much stake an entity controls
( ) Profitability of large stakers splitting stake and pretending to be a bunch of solo stakers
( ) Dishonesty on the part of stakers themselves
( ) Malicious software that stakers write themselves and run on their staking rigs
( ) Geth
**and the following philosophical objections may also apply:**
( ) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) Interactions with the beacon chain deposit contract should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blocklists suck
( ) Allowlists suck
( ) We should be able to stake any 32 ETH, no matter where it came from, without being censored
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Spinning a solo validator up and down should be essentially free
( ) Rotating keys for a solo validator should be free
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatibility with open source or open source licenses
( ) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) Temporary/time-limited validators are cumbersome
( ) I don't want the government vetting the origin of all my ETH
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough
Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you validate and slash your entire stake!
Adapted from craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt