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tinfoil hat here (I'm really just wondering out loud), does Binance still have to repurchase ETH and BTC to recover for losses? Could they be artificially lowering the price to get a better buy?

Economic hardship is no joke. If you needed money would you sell stocks or your small stake in Bitcoin? That’s what the sell off is. I believed in crypto in the past, holding out some hope for Bitcoin long term… but the entire crypto market was sold to us as anti establishment tech, rebellious currency without the controls of corrupt governments. Now we see Laptop coin, Melania coin, dare I say Hawk Tuah Coin. Once we had Elon Musk pushing DOGE, Marc Cuban pushing Cardano, ETH as high intelligent tech coin… what is the crypto space now but a total joke? So when economic times are tough, who but the die hard are going to hold Bitcoin? And to be honest the die hards got it from 5k to 60k and some piled on to show us 100k. The masses left for now and only a huge bull run will entice them back.

ETH will go back up to new highs. This is more like a rough end to the beginning than the end. GENIUS is 1 year old. Institutions all over the world are coming onchain en masse. In a couple years, ETH will be post-quantum and Ethereum will be significantly larger. This bear sucks hard but the medium and long terms look great.

If anyone thought we weren't going to fully retrace the run that started in August, they're crazy. Writing has been on the wall for weeks. Pitiful, though. And all we've accomplished for ETH the asset in a decade is an asset that traders toy around with and manipulate at will.

Look how they massacred my boy ETH, round tripped that hoe

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You've picked the right test. "How often were you right before" is the only question that matters. A predicted price can't answer it. I build an AI trading product (Botsfolio). The thing I ended up caring about most is what you're asking for: a record nobody can edit afterwards. Every trade goes into a public log that is sealed every hour and anchored in Bitcoin, losses included. If I wanted to quietly delete a bad week, I couldn't. Two things I'd look for on any "AI predicts" site: 1. A dated list of past calls, with the misses left in. 2. The worst drop shown next to the return. A return without it tells you nothing. For what it's worth, our AI doesn't publish price predictions at all. Its public BTC and ETH portfolio shows every trade (paper money on live prices): [https://botsfolio.com/crypto/watch/botsfolio-ai/portfolio/btc-eth-cycle-trader](https://botsfolio.com/crypto/watch/botsfolio-ai/portfolio/btc-eth-cycle-trader)

BTC on its way to earths core. Am I happy that I sold it for google when google crashed. Still have ETH tho

Time to rotate into ETH.

ETH is outperforming BTC today—$2,011, down 1.8% versus BTC at $70,905, down 3.7%—but one session is too little to call a durable rotation. With Fear & Greed at 20 (Extreme Fear) and BTC still roughly 43% below its $126k high, a relief bounce could remain fragile. I’d watch whether ETH’s relative strength persists across sessions and whether selling pressure eases before treating this as a trend change. Until then, smaller sizing and avoiding leverage seem more defensible than trying to pick the exact bottom.

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The piece of ETH is important to Ethereum and no one should be arguing against that. But the question becomes, what is a good price? If you got into ETH in 2017/2018, today's prices are looking pretty good. If you got into it at $4k, obviously not. But we have to assume that even in the most optimistic of cases that ETH will not go up for forever. So if someone gets in at 20k and eth drops to 15k, can you blame the ethereum project in that moment for not making their investor whole? Where in this discovery phase of a highly speculative asset do we draw the line?

Wish I could stake. I don’t have enough money, pretty much only the rich can stake. The alternative is trading my ETH for one of those other tokens like RocketPool or the likes. And I have to deal with the taxation of swapping tokens. What a nightmare Not your keys, not your coins. No ty

Fair, the structure point is real. A big share of BTC demand now runs through spot ETFs that only trade during US market hours, and alts don't get that bid at all. Today is a slightly different picture though: BTC is about $71.3k (CoinGecko, 6:03 PM ET), down around 3.5% on the day, while ETH is down around 2.1%. So alts aren't the ones leading this leg. If that holds on the next red day, it would be the first sign the underperformance is easing.

Which means what? ETH at $5k.

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It was destined, everyone said this in the XMR community. Let it have its moment, then slow dwindle back like SOL, XRP, ETH etc... all coins that pump will dump over a 2 year period at least.... XMRBTC chart is so sexy since 2.5-3 years, my wife is jealous. In this time period, ZEC will be back to 120 tops...while it enjoys ALL exchange liquidity and shilling :D Coindesk immediately publishes any minuscule shit (they are obviously on the payroll) on it... https://preview.redd.it/zvra19bh591i1.png?width=1090&format=png&auto=webp&s=5794487fef5d537abca9189087d3452be627451c

>Vitalik has said numerous times that if all ethereum does is only make a handful of people rich, then the project has been a massive failure. The flip side is that if Ethereum ends up making far more people poorer than richer, can we really call that a success? Improving people's lives should include those who invested their money in securing and supporting the network. Dismissing the price of ETH as irrelevant ignores the economic interests of the very people who helped make Ethereum possible.

ETH made a higher low by about 22% at the November 2022 capitulation, while BTC made a lower low. Maaaybe it plays out in a similar fashion.

Because their mandate is to buy ETH

Mostly it's a BTC drawdown dragging everything with it. BTC is around $71.6k (CoinGecko, 3:12 PM ET), down about 3.8% on the day, 14% over 30 days and roughly 43% under the Oct 2025 high of $126k. ETH (-20% over 30 days) and SOL (-24%) are falling harder, which is normal when risk appetite drains: BTC dominance is near 59.5%, so money is hiding in the biggest coin rather than rotating into alts, and Fear & Greed sits at 28. How long is the honest unknown. The thing I'd watch is whether alts stop underperforming BTC on red days; until that happens, bounces tend to get sold, so I'd size positions assuming another leg down is possible.

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I agree, but $2K is a major psychological support and resistance level. ETH could bounce from there.

ETH drops often lag BTC's, but when they catch up, they are larger.

Short term I read it the same way, but one thing keeps me from getting too confident on the downside: even after this morning's liquidation wave, ETH perp funding is still slightly positive on the two venues I checked, about +0.004% to +0.005% per 8h as of 10:23 AM ET, with price near 2,000 and a 24h low around 1,983. Longs are still paying to stay in, so the crowd hasn't flipped short yet. Flushes like this often don't finish until funding goes flat or negative and shorts become the crowded side. Until that happens I'd treat bounces back toward your neckline as places where trapped longs exit rather than as a reversal. Higher timeframe, I'd wait to see where price settles once funding resets before calling direction. Not advice, just how I'm reading it.