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Then your headline is false. You didn't hold since 2017 you recklessly traded over 9 years. 2017 ETH average price was $222.60.

RIP BTC Long Live ETH........please pretty please

The online rumour mill is working overtime at the moment. As we all know by now, the EF is focussing their efforts on the development of CROPS, which is censorship resistance, open source, privacy and security of the Ethereum network and tries to slowly reduce their support of other areas of the Ethereum ecosystem. This means that that there needs to be news actor jumping in and filling the holes that the refocus of the EF leaves behind. There still is nothing official. But there have been many clear hints here and there. The EF was selling a lot of ETH this spring, much more than they actually need. Some knowledgeable people hinted that the reason for all this selling is for starting up new foundations with enough capital to fulfill their purpose. A few weeks ago Tom Lee clearly said in a video that there will be 5 spin-offs from the EFs coming and said that staking rewards from BMNR can fund some of the efforts there. Unfortunately I cannot find the video at the moment. Two days ago, Tom Lee mentioned that the funding is secured. A few hours ago Joseph Lubin from Consensys made it pretty clear that they are involved as well, probably through Sharplink.
It is hard to say what exactly the multiple foundation setup will look like and how it will be staffed and what mandate they will have, but things are definitely moving. There is also not yet a timeline when one can expect anything official, but if the involved people are hinting at it that publicly, it sounds like it will not take months until we hear something, but rather earlier.
Sources:
Joseph Lubin Tweet about additional foundations: https://xcancel.com/ethereumjoseph/status/2068470353429397857 or https://x.com/ethereumjoseph/status/2068470353429397857
Tom Lee post about funding secured: https://xcancel.com/fundstrat/status/2068030092064834011 or https://x.com/fundstrat/status/2068030092064834011

If you're just starting with BTC and ETH, I'd compare a few options rather than committing to the biggest name right away. Binance, Coinbase and Kraken are popular for a reason, but I've also had a decent experience with SafeBit. The interface was straightforward, fees were transparent, and getting started felt easier than on some larger exchanges.
For beginners, I think the most important things are security, reasonable fees, and whether the platform is easy to navigate. I'd suggest creating accounts on a couple of exchanges and seeing which one feels most comfortable before moving larger amounts.

Do a small DCA on BTC and ETH as long as prices are low so you don't miss the current opportunity, but before putting any significant amount of money in crypto -unless you have a degree in finance (financial engineering/mathematics, computational/quantitative finance, or something like that) - I'd advise you to start by studying the trade of commodities, forex, and stocks. Maybe actually trade them with small amounts one pair at the same time, until you are consistently profitable for a few months at least. (or "paper trading" if you don't want to loose money)
There is a lot to learn.
Nobody is going to make a trading course on a public forum, and paid courses outside of reputed school/university are usually scams.
For crypto in particular you should be careful about the Fully Diluted Valuation / Market Cap ratio and its meaning for the considered coin.
My personal bet is on SOL, but giving a fair explanation of the reason is not easy in a comment or small post.
If you also end-up investing in SOL, stake it at least.

Most people are not doubting Ethereum's potential but ETH the asset. Say TVL is 2T USD 2030, does that mean ETH is at least that much or can something like 200-500B be "enough" security?

I totally understand you but once you lose 200k you won’t see that the same way. -20% in one year is a 90% probability.
Don’t forget that the rewards is in CRO, So each time you get some, you need to convert it to usd if you don’t want it to lose value , its insane. And it’s not compatible everywhere : it’s a debit card .
Ether fi is a credit card. It’s 4% so 1% less than crypto.com (first year is 6,5% with crypto then its 5%), but it becomes 5% if you ask your wife or family to refer you (they will get 1% of your purchase , so 4+1=5%)
And fundamentally it is viable : CRO everyone sells it , it cannot take value long term. Ether fi the rewards are in ETH or USD at your option. And it comes from their ETH staking business , they allocate a percentage to credit card rewards . CRO ? they just mint CRO out of thin air !
Last but not least, deposit 1M and contact ether fi support. They will grant you the VIP status , unlocking those 4% directly and the gold metal card. The 1M will go to a 5% per year APR stable coin safe. So it’s unlike any risks you wanted to take with cro

CT is pure entertainment right now.
Everyone thinks they are purely rational when imo most of the post is pure emotional stuff. See David's tweet [here](https://x.com/TrustlessState/status/2068401738927780249?s=20).
>Every single one of your takes is “ETH is winning”
Of course in his case every take is "ETH is losing". Same with Dankrad. And of course we have the same setup on the pro ETH side.
What I can't understand is how they make that their personality. Yes, Ryan Berckmans is a perma bull. But why call him out for it just because you converted to perma bear? Why does Dankrad tweet so much about ETH? Dude, let go. You got out, good for you. But there's really nothing to win by tweeting all that stuff. And no, you don't help the people still with the EF.
In the case of David it might make sense, cause he gets views and people might listen to the podcast, which in the end means $$$. But I don't believe that's the strategy here.
If you abandon ETH, do one tweet, leave and let go.

No hate from me, that's smarter than anything I've managed in six years of holding. Honestly it probably would've saved me, since the boredom of watching ETH just sit there doing nothing is what pushed me to dump at the worst possible moment every cycle. How much do you reckon you give up when it actually rips though?

Yes, if ETH falls while you are in an ETH/USDT pool, your position generally ends up heavier in ETH and lighter in USDT when you withdraw.
That is the pool doing its job. Traders are effectively buying the asset that got relatively cheaper and selling the asset that got relatively more expensive, so your inventory shifts toward the underperforming side.
The part that trips people up is the pair label. ETH/USDT and USDT/ETH are the same pool exposure if you are providing 50/50 value.
The cleaner mental model is this:
1. LP starts with 50/50 value
2. one asset moves
3. arbitrage keeps the pool price in line with the market
4. your position rebalances against the move
5. you withdraw a different mix than you deposited
Fees can offset some of that, but the inventory shift is real.
If you wanted to be heavier in USDT when ETH falls, that takes a directional hedge or a different strategy entirely.

Not sure if it's a blasphemy or not in this sub, so dont hate, but I'm riding NEHI and YBMN ETFs for my ETH exposure.
Pays monthly/weekly income during the whole roller-coaster ride.
Right now it's accumulation time.

I am believer that long-term Ethereum will change the financial system. I am very much putting my money where my mouth is on that.
Short-medium term, ETH looks extremely weak. That is a fact. We can talk about the great strides Ethereum has done, but a fact is a fact. ETH is not following.
My thesis is that investors have not priced in longer-term importance of ETH. I believe so much of the crypto space related to stealing, negativity, and scamming that short to medium term will be rough.
The difference between me and so many people invested into ETH is that I realize the short-term risk and believe in the long-term goal. That is why I buy ETH now.
Now is scary. Now is when we don't know if we are at a bottom or 50% from a bottom.
There is only one thing that will make me become skeptical about ETH price action. If ETHBTC can hold .017, which is worst case scenario for me, I will be very optimistic. Yes, .017 is low but we know what happens to ETH if BTC cliff dives. I want ETHBTC to stay above .025. I WANT it badly. That won't change what can easily happen. If BTCUSD breaks 60k again, ETHBTC will probably lower than .023.
Do not take me as a perma-bear. I have receipts in June that show I am a heavy buyer at sub 1700 levels while i was bearish during February. Be skeptical of the people here who always make any narrative like ETH is about to skyrocket.
We will most likely not see any great up moves by ETH this year. Don't ignore negative trends just because you in the asset.

**TL;DR:**
The author, who held ETH since 2017, surprisingly lost money on their investment. This happened because they repeatedly sold during market panics and then bought back at higher prices. Additionally, a portion of their funds was lost on a now-defunct exchange. Consequently, their actual realized gains are significantly worse than perceived.
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I started buying and staking ETH in Jan 2022, more or less around the ATH then. Even had a 55% haircut due to a defi project rugpull. Learnt my lesson, DCA consistently since and managed to actually turn a profit last year. Took profits and with the current bear, buying back in.

# To ETH Mooon!!! ┗(°0°)┛

Ha, the Monday paper on Sunday line got me good. That was always my exact delusion, talking myself into believing this particular dip felt different enough to actually act on. And the BTC maxi thing stings because I spent years feeling early and clever on ETH when zooming out the whole time would've just told me to sit on my hands and shut up.

It could be, but if ETH is in a longer-time downtrend, this might be adding to the fuel.

Low "ETH availability" does not mean it's bullish or bearish. Stop only saying it as a bullish thing because your portfolio benefits to the upside. The same thing was said when we hit 3k, 5 months ago. People talked about how it's super bullish that the supply of ETH in exchanges is at all times low. We went below 2k shortly after.

This means nothing related to price going up or down.
The users that are saying this were saying the same thing 4 months ago, literally. Check their comment history.
Low ETH availability makes larger moves to the down or up depending where the overall trend is going. Currently, that trend is down.
Please understand, for the love of Ethereum, that you do not need to make everything positive just because you benefit to the upside.
Going into the past history of these users shows that they never talk about downside risk.
Downside risk is very real right now, more so than the 2025 low. Why? Because this is the year crypto os weakest. This is not an opinion. It's currently a fact.
Take advantage of these trends since in the future, they will break.

Understand that not that much ETH available right now does not mean its bullish.
After going to 4k into the 3k level, many people, especially in this subreddit, said that we will have an explosive move out due to "not that much ETH available" on exchanges.
Guess what happened? We lost 3k and very quickly went to the level we are at.
The fact is that availability becomes at any direction we go down.
If price goes down further, more people sell in fear. That is more available ETH. In order for price to go down, MORE available ETH must be made due to the higher seller volume.
If price goes up a lot, more sellers because of profits. More available ETH.
Saying that there isn't much ETH available like it will result in a big up move is not accurate to what has been happening.
Try not to be biased because you benefit to upside.

I buy $200 per week of crypto in a one to ten ratio BTC to ETH. I can definitely appreciate how this strategy can jump start your crypto holdings. Just be sure to pay off loans before the big interest kicks in a year down the line you will be fine.