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You start with:
> actually no, it's terrible investment even if you [...]
As if you were going to address my scenario, but then you ignored it (and talked about DCA, which is also a fair thing to look at, I agree).
Again: ETH has been an amazing investment (much much better than S&P or gold) if you bought when people were complaining about the price, and DCA'd out when people were euphoric.
How is that untrue or bullshit?

You know, the speculative side of ETH was heavily overweight in 2021. Through all that mania, I reckon ETH was never clearly above a $1000 floor.
Regardless of speculative boom and bust, the numbers show ETH floor value rising. Very slowly rising. Only by roughly 15-20% yearly, from 1K to 2K (not too bad?)
The real issue is the emotional weight of having seen a 40X or 50X and be constantly expecting another run while ETH simply slowly creeps up. Even worse if you buy the top.

I have the same problem for the past 2 days. I sent the equivalent of €300 in ETH from Plisio — the transaction went through instantly, but nothing showed up on Revolut. Everything appears successful on Etherscan, and just before that, I had sent a much smaller amount using the same transfer method, which arrived without any issue. From what I’ve seen, this seems to be a recurring problem that isn’t being handled at all. Now i can't even access my funds

ETH holders are still paying for the 55X pump from $90 to $4800 six years ago.
It's clear at this point that that was unsustainable, caused only by irrationality, stupid NFTs, altcoin casino, and memes.
If ETH slowly appreciated from $100 to $2000 in ten years, everybody would think it's an amazing asset.
It overshot its fail value *hard*. Maybe now, in 2026, it's worth way more than in did in 2021.
But this could still mean that ETH was worth $600 in 2021, and $1800 now.

>If you think the S&P is *not* overheated *right now*, and ETH is not undervalued right now, feel free to long the first and short the second.
then why don't you short the first and long the second if you believe eth is undervalued right now and s&p is overheated right now?
> It's always easy to pick winners after the fact.
well i mean "after the fact" is the only time we can actually see who the winners and losers are. and over the last few years, eth has been the clear loser in terms of price performance even when compared to assets in the same class like btc or bnb, much less others in different asset classes that have superior fundamentals

Bought alot of shit coins, meme coins, even luna half way the collapse but nothing beats my ETH investment, the worst shitcoin of them all!

The trend is your friend.
Right now I'm way more confident in the stock market than ETH.
Could this change? Sure, but I'd have to see crypto show some life first. I'm not going to just yolo buy into it hoping it reverses. I can buy a bit later and lose some of the initial profits but also avoid the continuation of... *this*.
INTEL crabbed for more than a quarter of a century before recovering. You could buy into it after a decade of stagnation because it's a good company, and the market would reward you with another two decades of losing your money to inflation. Let that sink in.

ETH has been a terrible investment if you bought high and sold low.
ETH has been an amazing investment (much much better than S&P or gold) if you bought when people were complaining about the price, and DCA'd out when people were euphoric.
Do with that information what you will.

I’ve been having the same issue for the past 2 days. I sent €300 worth of ETH from Plisio — the transaction went through instantly, but nothing showed up on Revolut. Everything appears successful on Etherscan, and just before that I had sent a smaller amount using the same method, which arrived without any problem.From what I’ve seen, this seems to be a recurring issue with crypto transfers on this app that doesn’t really get handled properly, and I honestly don’t know why. I’ll let you know if it gets fixed on my side.

Thorchain has been hacked six times in five years, and not once the same way. Each one through a different layer of the architecture.
2021 - Smart contract bug in the ETH Router. Attackers tricked Bifrost into reading manipulated msg.value events. ~$15.5M across three exploits.
2022 - Validator software bug. Non-deterministic behavior across nodes triggered a 20-hour outage.
2023 - TSS keygen vulnerability. Devs admitted a malicious validator could have drained vaults during a prior key generation. Network halted preemptively.
2025 (Jan) - Economic design failure. THORFi's lending model required RUNE to keep outperforming BTC/ETH. It didn't. $200M trapped.
2025 (Sep) - Social engineering. DPRK ran a Telegram deepfake on co-founder JP, extracted his MetaMask keys from iCloud Keychain. $1.35M lost.
2026 - TSS cryptography flaw. A malicious validator exploited the GG20 implementation, leaked key material across signing sessions, reconstructed the vault key. $10.7M drained.
Plus: ~$605M of Bybit/Lazarus stolen funds laundered through in 2025. Validators voted to block, reversed under "code is law" pressure.
Six distinct vectors: smart contract code, validator software, TSS keygen, economic design, social engineering, TSS cryptography. ~$227M directly lost or trapped. The architecture keeps finding new ways to fail.

My point is that your wording was "it's gambling and sunk cost", which I am arguing is applicable to a memecoin someone holds. I'm arguing ETH has more value than a memecoin, so it's not accurate to describe investing/holding ETH as if it was the same as a pure memecoin.

I’ve been having the same issue for the past 2 days. I sent €300 worth of ETH from Plisio — the transaction went through instantly, but nothing showed up on Revolut. Everything appears successful on Etherscan, and just before that I had sent a way smaller amount using the same method, which arrived without any problem. From what I’ve seen, this seems to be a recurring issue with crypto transfers on Revolut that doesn’t really get handled properly, and I honestly don’t know why. I’ll let know on this forum if it gets fixed on my side.

Do we expect a slow bleed for the next days and probably week or a bounce again?
It seems that ETH and most other currencies will be not part of a melt-up and be hit even harder when a recession hits so far, since Trump put so much pressure onto the economy that I don't see it easing for a while.

If you're saying nothing is guaranteed 100%, obviously yes. But you could say it's "gambling and sunk cost fallacy" to a holder of a random memecoin. It's disingenuous to pretend that ETH is no different than that random memecoin, given the arguments.

ETH has been stuck in the 2-4k range for so long that none of us can imagine it go to 6k ever. It seems completely out of the range of possibilities.
While in reality 6k is just where we should be right now based on where everything else trades at.
The AI trade is running hot and money will rotate.
We didn't have liquidity flooding the markets since Covid but this will soon have to change because otherwise none of the government debt is sustainable.
ETH's time will come and it might massively exceed expectations the next cycle when everything falls into place:
the macro (liquidity flowing)
the narrative (quantum vs BTC, institutional adoption as a non speculative use case)
the scalability (the Blockchain actually being able to handle massive transaction volumes)

And Unibase is up 776%. I'm in ETH for the long game, that's what investing is. If all you care about is price why haven't you sold?

The NFT sector is totally having a moment right now, posting three whole days of gains! With the ssiNFT index up over 3% and faves like $PudgyPenguins and $Blur popping off, it looks like capital is flowing back after ages. Even $BTC hitting $78,000 has given everything a boost.
This ain't just NFTs though; Layer 2s like Starknet (up 18%!) and even DeFi and meme coins are feeling the love. When NFTs are booming alongside $ETH and Bitcoin, it's usually a vibe check for the whole market.

I know you can cherry-pick start dates. That does not change the broader point.
Over a 3-year time frame:
BTC: +192.25%
ETH: +22.01%
BNB: +115.36%
XRP: +224.07%
SOL: +330.70%
TRON: +398.51%
DOGE: +54.56%
ADA: -29.08%
ZEC: +1,442.16%
ADA is the only one on that list that underperformed ETH.
So no, one extra green day outside the 30-day window does not magically fix the picture. ETH’s price action has been absolute dogshit this cycle, especially post-Merge. Maybe that changes, but pretending the relative performance has been fine is delusional.

>**A lesson for school,**
>**Price action is always cruel,**
>**Market will befool.**
~Daily haiku until we’re at least at 0.178 on the ETH/BTC ratio or highest market cap

31 days ago ETH had an 8% day from 2188 to 2366. That no only ignores it's gains just a day earlier than this period but it also starts it at a higher number accentuating the losses over 30 days.