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Say you want to build an app were the base layer has 99.9999% uptime, colocation on every continent, is accessible via censorship resistant networks and simply cannot be turned off. Both BTC and ETH became completely unusable as early as 2017 as user transactions failed due to fees and congestion. All the centralized networks get frozen or rolled back. There is simply nothing in the goldilocks zone where scalable financial applications are both possible and highly available. Except that one coin.

ETH is a shit coin. Not a store of value Not good at being used as a currency Unlimited Supply Premined Central authority All it is used for is creating even shittier shit coins.

Max inflation for ETH is 1.5% a year, which is less than gold. But in many circumstances ETH can actually deflate. This argument that BTC goes up because it has a hard ceiling, but ETH doesn't because it is "unlimited" is just silly.

ETH is dead, it just doesn’t know it yet. SOL undervalued

The transfer is just as any other .. you just send your coins to a given address.. after x confirmations your balance is updated .. you can track your transaction on both blockchains via explorer.. it’s Just BTC and ETH … no Lightning or other coins

This ain't great for ETH, unless anyone has a different take.

QQQ, NQ, NVDA, TSLA, BTC, ETH, GLD and SLV Support and Resistance, Pivots and Highest Volume Levels for Day Traders, Nov 9

# How I would divide the $200 Yes. $200 is enough to start learning cryptocurrency trading, provided you treat it as a learning budget rather than a way to make substantial money quickly. You do not need thousands of dollars to begin. # What can you do with $200? |Activity|Recommendation| |:-|:-| |Buy Bitcoin|Yes| |Buy Ethereum|Yes| |Learn to place trades|Yes| |Practise buying and selling|Yes| |Use leverage|No| |Join paid signal groups|No| |Expect regular profits|No| # How I would divide the $200 # $200 Illustrative beginner learning allocation Bitcoin (BTC) $75 Ethereum (ETH) $25 Cash reserve $100 This is an example, not a recommendation to buy these assets. You could also keep all $200 in cash while practising with a demo account. # Five rules I would insist on 1. Never borrow money to trade. 2. Avoid leverage, futures and margin trading. 3. Never give anyone access to your wallet. 4. Never accept help from strangers offering to trade for you. 5. Never invest additional money simply because you have suffered a loss. Remember that cryptocurrency can lose its entire value. Fees and spreads also reduce returns.

You’ll probably be downvoted but you’re right. I’ve been soley investing in tech since the 23 lows. I purchased most of my ETH/BTC 2019-21 with a few smaller investments in 22. It’s hard for me to throw a single dollar to BTC/ETH now despite working a well paying tech job. 5 years of compound growth is a lot to miss out on and It’s getting harder to justify even putting a low percentage of my salary towards Bitcoin/ETH now. I’ll be very interested in watching the next run. If it doesn’t outperform the S&P through 2030 then I’ll likely dump everything at that point.

BTC now gets outperformed in most time-frames compared to gold going back 5 years. Almost all BTC (and ETH) gains are from 5 years and longer ago. Unless BTC makes a nice move up this or next year, I might have to reflect if BTC is still a worthwhile hold, or if I should just liquidate everything into stocks and bonds. For now, crypto legit is looking like a dead investment with all the risk attached.

ETH dipped under $2,100 and the calendar flipped back to August

I'm running 6 live now. US Long, US Long/Short, European, Nordic, Bitcoin/ETH, Metals and ETF:s. Will report more in few weeks when I have real data. So far looks good, only US is down but it started on Wednesday last week... others are hitting Sharpe of 3-8 so far

It's the first transaction, a new user has to buy ETH on a CEX, withdraw to a wallet, bridge to an L2 and keep gas on the right chain before they can do anything, and one wrong step burns real money. Yields and APYs aren't the blocker, the five step setup with no undo button is, which is why the apps pulling in normies now hide the chain entirely like Coinbase's embedded wallets.

**ALL HAIL THE ETERNAL CRAB** 📈 📉 📈 🌊 📈 📉 📈 📉 🌌 📉 📈 📉 🌌 📉 📈 📉 📈 🐋 📈 📉 📈 🌊 📈 🐋 🦀 🐋 📈 🌊 📈 📉 📈 🐋 📈 📉 📈 📉 🌌 📉 📈 📉 🌌 📉 📈 📉 📈 🌊 📈 📉 📈 **$1000--------$2103--------$5000** **2021----------2026----------∞** *Honestly, 2021 as the start of the Crab is generous. ETH hasn't really gone anywhere since late 2017.*

Tom Lee was told by EF to not go over 5%. I suspect he's just buying tiny amounts to keep his streak of ETH buying active.

BTC/ETH rose from 32 to 35 after the dump and stayed near 35 as BTC rebounded but ETH didn’t. Was that due to an ETH sell-off and a rotation into BTC? What caused it?

Welp, seems like back to good old business where markets stay flat while crypto dumps excessively (unfortunatley ETH leading the way). With the democrats starting some serious investigations, seems like the market is undergoing some cleansing (which is a good thing in the long term, e.g. i don't mind Trump's immediate family stop damaging the crypto space), i just hope that they will also come up with some positive regulatory development paralelly so that we don't go back to summer lows..

ETH is a joke

Here we go again? ETH is unstoppable, at least to dump and liquidate longs. Liquidating shorts, well thats another story. Seems like the winning bet

Vitalik posted about this, and I 100% agree with his take. I constantly see people here arguing that ETH needs more use cases. But that never held BTC back. Why not just let ETH be a store of value (SoV)? Chasing utility is a never-ending race against new competitors, often leading to a race to the bottom. Community, trust, and network effects are far more valuable than people realize, and shouldn't be underestimated.

🌍 **Macro** Despite a rebound in U.S. tech stocks on Friday, crypto markets remained under pressure. October nonfarm payrolls rose by 165K, well above expectations of 65K, keeping interest-rate concerns alive. BTC briefly plunged to $73.5K early Monday before recovering above $75K, while ETH touched $2,060. Around $803M in crypto positions were liquidated over four hours, mostly longs. Spot BTC ETFs also recorded $412M in net outflows on Friday, bringing weekly outflows to approximately $1.28B. This week’s U.S. CPI, PPI, and AI cloud earnings could determine whether markets stabilize. ⸻ 📈 **Market Snapshot** • BTC: $74,842.50 (-1.34%) • ETH: $2,127.66 (-5.02%) • NASDAQ: 24,579.43 (+1.09%) • S&P 500: 7,376.86 (+0.31%) • F&G: 29 (previous: 28) ⸻ 🧠 **Market Take** Nvidia-related uncertainty is adding pressure to an already fragile tech market. The company’s board launched an independent investigation into reports that CEO Jensen Huang had become a target of a foreign intelligence operation, while stating there is currently no evidence of compromised company secrets or U.S. national security. Investors are also watching whether AI spending can translate into sustainable returns, with CoreWeave and Nebius earnings due this week. U.S. regulatory scrutiny of crypto platforms is also intensifying. Senator Richard Blumenthal requested investigative records from Binance, Tether, and World Liberty Financial by January 4, 2027. Separately, FinCEN issued an order restricting U.S. financial institutions from processing certain transfers involving MEXC. MEXC says it is reviewing the order and has launched an independent compliance review. These developments put AML controls, sanctions compliance, and platform operations under greater scrutiny. **Key levels:** • Resistance: $76K, followed by $78K • Support: $73.5K–$74K • Trend: Bearish ⸻ 🔥 **Hot Tokens** • **HOT:** \+12% after the HoloFuel network launched and opened HOT conversions for hosting and ecosystem service payments. • **BMT:** \+5% as Bubblemaps teased an investigation into alleged hidden-wallet profits involving a prominent crypto influencer. ⸻ 📰 **Key Updates** • **SEC:** Submitted proposed crypto broker-dealer rule changes covering four securities regulations to the White House for review. • **Russia:** Finalized retail crypto trading rules effective November 17, with an annual purchase limit of RUB 300,000. • **South Korea:** Expected to unveil its Digital Asset Basic Act this month, potentially shifting exchange oversight from registration to licensing. • **EU:** Established a crypto sanctions task force to combat sanctions evasion. • **U.S. 401(k):** Proposed rules allowing alternative assets, including crypto, have entered final White House review. • **Ethereum:** Compatibility risks delayed the Glamsterdam upgrade’s Hoodi testnet fork. • **Bittensor:** Launched a quantum-resistant wallet with three post-quantum signature algorithms and automatic key rotation. • **Hong Kong:** SFC proposed restrictions on misleading names used by unlicensed virtual asset businesses. • **Token unlocks:** ALLO unlocks 88.51% (approx. $26.42M) on Nov 11; RAIN unlocks 5.08% (approx. $197M) on Nov 12; AZTEC unlocks 31.81% (approx. $10.3M) on Nov 13. ⸻ ⚡ **Quick Take** BTC’s brief drop below $74K highlights fragile sentiment, persistent ETF outflows, and pressure from leveraged liquidations. The $73.5K–$74K zone is critical, while U.S. CPI, PPI, and AI earnings could shape the next move.

Lee has wild predictions of 20-50k ETH. If he's convinced of that and actually happens to be a master market manipulator, he's not going to care if he's buying at 1500, 2000, 3000, etc. The timing of his purchases over the past half decade would mean relatively little in the long run.

You’re listing institutional adoption as though that automatically proves Ethereum has fulfilled its original World Computer vision. I’m not denying Ethereum has significant adoption in finance. But tokenizing financial assets, transferring stablecoins, and settling transactions is a much narrower achievement than becoming a comprehensive decentralized computing platform. We’re talking about a World Computer here, not just a programmable financial ledger. There’s a difference between executing smart contracts and actually hosting entire applications, including their frontends, backends, data, and computational workloads. Most Ethereum applications still rely heavily on traditional infrastructure for those functions. Calling something the World Computer doesn’t automatically mean it’s delivering on that ambition. And your argument about ETH demand is exactly what I’m questioning. You’re describing record network activity, growing institutional adoption, and increasing gas consumption, yet that hasn’t translated into sustained ETH price appreciation or stronger fee burning economics. Ethereum’s scaling strategy has made computation cheaper, weakening the relationship between adoption and token value. So why should anyone automatically assume more adoption will eventually make ETH a better store of value than Bitcoin? Listing financial institutions proves there’s demand for Ethereum’s services, not necessarily sustained demand to hold ETH. And since we’re discussing the World Computer, look at what ICP is actually capable of doing. It can host entire applications directly on-chain, including frontend interfaces, backend logic, persistent data, and substantial computational workloads, without requiring the same traditional cloud infrastructure. The UNDP announced a collaboration with DFINITY to explore sovereign cloud infrastructure and AI applications for governments and public institutions. Pakistan has gone further, deploying a sovereign Cloud Engine built on ICP, designed to run government applications, national-scale digital services, and AI powered systems while keeping sensitive data under national control. They’re developing capabilities for sovereign messaging, government software, and eventually broader digital public infrastructure. That’s a considerably more expansive vision of decentralized computing than simply recording financial transactions or settling tokenized assets. Ethereum has clearly found substantial adoption in finance, but if we’re going to call something the World Computer, shouldn’t we judge it by how much of the actual computing stack it can run rather than how many financial institutions use its ledger?

BMNR should honestly just go for 10% at this point given how low the price is. The R:R is much better for them now at these levels. Either ETH becomes a valuable asset worth 8k+ at some point in the future and they make 4x+ on their buys or it fails and bleeds a slow death. Either way, BMNR owning 10% instead of 5% is never gonna be the critical failure point of why a future Ethereum “failed”.

the triple point framing has been around for a while but i think the frustration is less about the concepts coexisting and more about how the messaging shifts depending on what's working... when fees were burning and supply was deflationary the ultrasound money narrative was everywhere... now that supply is inflating again the emphasis moves to store of value and the burn gets downplayed as a valuation driver... it feels reactive rather than a consistent thesis... also the EF mandate calling ETH money on page one is notable because the foundation has historically been careful about that framing for regulatory reasons... not totally sure but it seems like the community wants a clearer answer on what actually drives long term value accrual rather than a menu of narratives that get swapped in and out...