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I think I did the math on if I had held my BTC, and ETH mining revenue from 2012-2014 to now instead of mining and selling. Came out to right around $170 million. But I could also have bought a winning powerball ticket and made $800 million in a day.

ETH marketing has sucked. That is literally why I made the thread. “World Computer” never hit the spot like “digital gold” did.
Some ideas, since we need to onboard meatheads like you - u/SpontaneousDream:
**ΞTH is the RΞAL Digital Gold**
**Ethereum - Digital Gold & Diamonds With Yield**
**BTC maxis act like Bitcoin never borrows narratives. NFTs, smart contracts, DeFi-ish stuff, and now fake yield through Saylor leverage games.**
BTC had the easy lane for years. ETH holders have been through the grinder. I would not get too cocky inviting karma.

>**Stoning but stoneless,**
>**Definition of hopeless,**
>**Bankless to ETHless.**
~Daily haiku until we’re at least at 0.178 on the ETH/BTC ratio or highest market cap

Digital Diamonds.
It was always clear to me that ETH was primarily a digital gold akin to BTC, and smart contracts, PoS and other improvements were just layered on top. But the truth is, retail does not even see ETH as a competitor to BTC for the SoV use case. The manipulation campaigns have done real damage. ETH has time on its side, but we need to see ETH flip this lifetime please.

r/ethereum can't even come up with a slogan to shill their shitcoin. These idiots don't even understand what they are holding lmfao. See below
>Ethereum’s problem is that its slogans usually explain technology instead of why someone should want to hold the asset.
>Maybe the pitch needs to be simpler:
>BTC is digital gold. ETH is digital gold with an engine.
>Or:
>ETH combines the scarcity of gold with the utility of oil.
>Or:
>ETH is productive digital gold - an asset you can hold, stake, and earn yield on while it powers a digital economy.
>That hits much harder IMO than “world computer.”
>Any other ideas?

Something about this drawdown feels different from previous ones and I've been trying to put my finger on why. Finally realized it's the funding rates.
In a typical BTC correction, perpetual swap funding goes negative. Shorts get paid. Longs get squeezed out. The leverage flushes and you get a clean base to build from. It's painful but healthy. The market resets.
That hasn't happened this time. BTC dropped from roughly $104K to $77K, a 26% drawdown over several months, and perp funding rates on major exchanges have stayed stubbornly positive or flat. Never went meaningfully negative. The leverage didn't flush.
What this tells me:
There's a persistent bid under the market that isn't retail. Retail got destroyed in the January-May correction. Look at on-chain exchange flows, retail addresses have been net sellers for weeks. But institutional OTC desks report consistent buyer interest at these levels, and ETF flows have been net positive in most weeks despite the drawdown.
The leverage hasn't reset because the people providing it aren't the ones who normally get flushed. Hedge funds using basis trades (long spot, short perp) don't care about funding direction the way retail does. They're collecting the basis premium regardless. So funding stays positive even as price drops.
The trading implication:
A market that hasn't flushed leverage is a market that hasn't found its true bottom yet. Every bounce gets sold into because the overhead leverage is still there. The "V-shaped recovery" everyone keeps expecting can't happen until that overhead supply clears.
What I'm watching:
10Y yield direction (macro risk still dominates crypto)
BTC OI change relative to price, if OI drops while price is flat, that's the flush
ETH/BTC ratio, ETH leading downside usually means broader risk-off in crypto
Not calling a bottom. Not calling for more downside. Just observing that the market microstructure hasn't completed a full leverage reset, and that usually means more chop before a clean directional move.
How are you guys sizing into this environment? The lack of a clean washout makes position sizing difficult because you don't know where the true support is until the leverage actually clears.

It is unfortunate that we are still seeing headlines like this in 2026. They do not instill confidence in Ethereum or help onboard new investors to ETH.
People will dismiss this as “Coindesk FUD,” and it is true that the EF is not Ethereum. But the headline is not baseless. Core figures have left the EF, and the community has openly debated Ethereum’s direction, leadership, and messaging.
You can argue the concern is overstated, but dismissing the optics entirely is naive. Perception matters, and right now Ethereum needs more confidence - not more uncertainty.
[https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2026/05/21/ethereum-s-identity-crisis-is-deepening-after-high-profile-brain-drain-frustrates-the-community](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2026/05/21/ethereum-s-identity-crisis-is-deepening-after-high-profile-brain-drain-frustrates-the-community)
>***Ethereum’s identity crisis is deepening after high-profile 'brain drain' frustrates the community***
>*What began earlier this week as shock over more exits of core figures has now evolved into something more existential, according to some community members.*
>*Days after several high-profile Ethereum Foundation departures, the EF still has not publicly explained the exits, fueling growing frustration and speculation across the Ethereum community about leadership, strategy and internal culture.*
>*Prominent voices, including Dankrad Feist and Laura Shin, say Ethereum’s problems stem from the Foundation prioritizing ideology over competitiveness, tokenomics and growth, warning that the ecosystem risks losing talent and market share to rivals.*

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“World Computer,” “Digital Oil,” “Yield-bearing Digital Money,” “Productive Asset” - none of these instantly make people think ETH number will go up.
Bitcoin’s “digital gold” narrative works because people immediately associate gold with wealth preservation and rising value.
Ethereum’s problem is that its slogans usually explain technology instead of why someone should want to hold the asset.
Maybe the pitch needs to be simpler:
BTC is digital gold. ETH is digital gold with an engine.
Or:
ETH combines the scarcity of gold with the utility of oil.
Or:
ETH is productive digital gold - an asset you can hold, stake, and earn yield on while it powers a digital economy.
That hits much harder IMO than “world computer.”
Any other ideas?
[https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2026/01/01/vitalik-buterin-on-the-two-goals-ethereum-must-meet-to-become-the-world-computer](https://www.coindesk.com/tech/2026/01/01/vitalik-buterin-on-the-two-goals-ethereum-must-meet-to-become-the-world-computer)

Shit, it's low af but Coinbase Debit Card gives %0.5 back in BTC, ETH, or USDC with no requirements.

don't forget my ETH..... please, dear god, please.

The timing of this post is interesting — Ethereum Foundation just shipped a direct answer to exactly this problem this week.
Clear Signing went live on May 12th as an open standard built on two EIPs: ERC-7730 (structured transaction descriptors in JSON format) and ERC-8176 (attestation framework for verifying descriptor accuracy). Instead of seeing hex code before clicking approve, users see human-readable explanations: "Send 1.5 ETH to vitalik.eth in exchange for 3,000 USDC."
MetaMask, Ledger, Trust Wallet, and Rabby are among the first wallets implementing it. The working group included Trezor, WalletConnect, Fireblocks, and Cyfrin.
The $1.5B Bybit hack and the $235M WazirX hack both followed the same pattern: legitimate-looking UI hiding a malicious transaction payload underneath. Clear Signing closes that gap by standardizing how wallets display transaction intent — making it impossible for a malicious contract to hide what it's actually asking you to approve.
The catch: coverage depends on whether dApp developers write ERC-7730 descriptor files for their contracts. Adoption will be gradual. But the standard now exists — which is more than we had last week.
*Disclosure: I'm from GetBlock. We cover infrastructure and protocol stories like this every Monday in Running Web3 Weekly.*

Will they start selling less ETH at the bottom since they now have fewer salaries to pay?

When was ETH not hated? Maybe for the 10 minutes it was above $4.8k...

This sub is peak sheeple. They will downvote hype all the time and then buy the top when it flips ETH

Was just reading CT. Wow, one would start to think ETH is really dead. Everybody hates ETH. Interesting

You know what that is quite precise analysis of currency markets.
I take swings (MGC) and scalp 10's & 20's on good days.
I am selling GBP, EUR 1W, 1M. Will also look into selling JPY soon. My thesis is JPY is dumping and has been since '22 the draw down will create space for its market.
I rotate some into ETH & BTC.
My main efforts is to open multi accounts through a software like FXPro or/and Socialtrader.
Try earn large. Have a real edge with account management. Get to Bahamas with Mrs. Think of Real Estate Education in Dubai for a year to three. Get to a great salesman called D. Fazio & Client Ascension. Listkit and B2B outreach to estate agents to create commission and property with yielding

Feels to me like it has been abandoned by many of its most ardent followers. I saw a lot of OG names give up last year when ETH ratio plummeted. Even at conferences the vibe is rather subdued and businessy rather than solarpunk.

tradfi (bmnr, blackrock, jp morgan etc) is taking over the dev and maintenance of ethereum, which is fine and in the ethos of decentralisation.
it's just a shame from a temporary pr perspective that EF are seen to sell ETH at already depressed prices and that there is a fantasy narrative of 2.5 yr "runway" remaining with EF leading which will be followed by "ossification" lmfao

That sucks! Welcome back!
A big DeFi hack which showed that L2 multisig will intervene in some scenarios to save user funds/prevent North Korea from running away with money (LayerZero/Kelp/AAVE exploit - LayerZero got socially engineered for one of their multisigs causing Kelp rsETH to be printed and deposited into AAVE to withdraw ETH). This further pushed us towards L1 scaling. Looking at 200 or 300 (I forget which) million gas up from 60 million.