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ETH cannot be valued on revenues like a security must.
ETH is digital gold, and pristine collateral on Ethereum. This is also why we need to keep it extremely liquid without trusted third party "staking derivatives". It's also why we need to keep inflation low.
ETH is the hardest money on earth. More scarce than gold and more secure than Bitcoin.

> Robinhood makes a ton of money and pays very little to the Ethereum network. 
It's the same with all L2s, Base included. That's why they say L2s are parasitic and why some feel the ETH bull case is harder to see. The goal is that we have so many transactions settled that these small rivers become a meaningful revenue source. Will it/won't it, who knows but I don't bet the farm on it anymore. More diversified now than when I had 100% of my NW in ETH.

completely understand the apprehension. Indeed, a single black swan event is enough to wipe out even a relatively "safely" leveraged position. By staking, are you referring to LST staking through Lido/Etherfi or supplying the ETH to a vault?

Early in my career. I wanted to travel and get out of college debt. Investing I knew very little about but I kept half a coin on Coinbase along with some ETH (2.5) because back then everyone was convinced ETH was the next Bitcoin.

When you dig into the numbers of L2 Robinhood chain, it’s really clear that Ethereum is helping $hood a lot with L2 fee’s. Robinhood makes a ton of money and pays very little to the Ethereum network. 
Hard to justify that you shouldn’t buy the stock instead of ETH right now?

It's a circular argument, and a bad one at that. The initial point is that ETH will never catch up to Algorand's tech.
The "counterpoint" is: "ETH has more recognition and marketcap"
So the next sensible point, which I made, is rather than focusing on marketcap, people should be choosing to use technology that works. Then the marketcap and recognition of Algorand will grow.
So, that's where we are and that's the loop some of you seem to be stuck in.
Failing to see the next logical step.
I'm sorry, but ETH is broken. No amount of marketcap or name recognition changes that.
I'm genuinely trying to clarify this for you and others, because I don't think this is difficult to understand.

Rotate everything in BTC and ETH if you love me and Tommy Lee

you are right volume isn't diluted so much as your share of the fees that volume generates. However we can view this as the volume per your liquidity was reduced.
So ultimately your liquidity serviced less volume than you speculated it would given the size of the price move, but given time it could find itself in profit.
For example if the price returned to your starting price you would have more value than Hold. At that price you are up.
And you can choose to wait for a price move or crystalize the current exchange rate on your PnL.
\> Where I'd still push back is on it being free. The pool bought that ETH for you at prices you didn't pick, across a band you set months earlier
I'd push back the pool bought ETH at prices you specifically picked across a band you chose customized to your choosing, and which you could have updated at any time you pleased.
It is your responsibility, not the pools, to update the market view of your bids.
If you wanted to buy low and sell high you could try that. but then your paying swap fees instead of taking swap fees. Paying for the liquidity your currently selling.
And if your wrong, you still face IL. Every trading strategy faces the risk that the assets you hold today are worth less than the assets you held yesterday.
You can def do better than the Uniswap UI at pricing these things. They are the absolute worst at displaying v3/v4 information. Check out revert . finance for some ideas of how you could display these kinds of profits and losses better than their UI

Where can I get small amounts of ETH Base for fees?

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valid points but your 2.x% return pales against the potential losses from slashing and the potential moves in both directions that ETH can make in a year.
If you hold ETH as an investment then you might as well stake it if you are comfortable with the work and the slashing risk, regardless of whether it returns a piddling 2.x% or not

On the ETH network?

Bitmine has already accumulated around 5.81 million ETH, putting it at roughly 4.8% of the total supply and very close to its stated 5% target.
But the interesting part isn't just the size of the treasury, because unlike a typical corporate crypto treasury, Bitmine is staking most of its ETH. More than 5 million ETH is reportedly being used in staking, turning the treasury into an active part of Ethereum's economic infrastructure rather than simply a large balance sitting on a wallet.
At an estimated \~2.63% staking yield, Bitmine's current holdings could generate roughly $257 million in annualized staking revenue.
So what happens after 5%?
There are a few possibilities:
1. They keep buying.
Reaching 5% may simply become another milestone rather than a stopping point.
2. They slow down.
Bitmine could shift its focus from aggressive accumulation toward managing the treasury and maximizing staking revenue.
3. They stop accumulating.
This would be the most interesting market signal. If one of the largest corporate ETH buyers suddenly stopped adding, it could change short-term demand dynamics.
But there's another angle worth discussing. If Bitmine continues staking a significant portion of its ETH, its influence isn't only about how much ETH it owns. It's also about how much ETH it contributes to the validator ecosystem and how much staking activity becomes concentrated in one corporate entity.
What do you think about this, guys?

When I lose hope that ETH price appreciation will compensate for all of that. Dropping the yield will definitely put me on that path though I can’t place a number on it.
It’s the combination of all. Drop the yield. The contentious hard fork and its result. The level of centralization to follow. Overall how the community feels after this and whether my own values are aligned with what Ethereum as a community is transmitting.
I hope it’s not the time to move on. It would be sad to do so after all that we have achieved.

That's a good point. Maker is essentially a decentralized stablecoin protocol (DAI is only minted against supplied ETH, and burned when debt is repaid). Spark on the other hand is very much like Aave (in fact, it's a fork of Aave v3).

So we're talking about a more pool-reliant infrastructure where one side supplies assets, the other borrows. Logically, the best borrow rates are offered by Sky's USDS (compared to other bluechip stables like USDC and USDT) So I could definitely see architecture/smart contract risk being part of the answer, especially for someone who's had a Maker vault running reliably for years.
I also wonder if there's a less purely financial element to it. Maker is one of the OG DeFi protocols, and I can imagine some long-time users simply preferring the CDP model and what it represents over moving to another Aave-style lending market.

The cost to continue is not zero, it's the same as the cost today. Running a validator involves some work, especially during a chain upgrade that may happen in the middle of your night.
The risk to staking is also higher than holding raw ETH because of slashing. 
I'm not going to stake for free unless there is a high value use case that I need Ethereum for. There isn't one today. 

You forgot how they mint stablecoins out of thin air and use it to prop up BTC and ETH. Technical analysis is all bullshit on crypto

I think the answer the the emission curve is to get rid of the curve and keep emission at 0.
If emission goes to 0 when too much ETH is staked, then we're comfortable with not paying validators. 
The only validators who can afford to stake for free are large players who can wait as smaller validators drop out, meaning we expect most validators to be run by large companies.
Multiple large groups running validators (BMNR and Coinbase) can coordinate off-chain to balance their overall stake and set the validator reward rate. 
If our goal is to stop single large entities from controlling the overall validator set, pay then 0 and make it so all validators are rub by people who have a self-interest in validating - that will be people who want to secure the network. 

I assume you live in America.
Don't invest in shit you don't understand. You could buy a house and the real estate market drops. You can buy gold / silver and then the prices drops of the 10th floor cuz Trump got a boner for war. Plus precious metals have a history of low profits. Recently there has been a boom in demand for precious metals for industries.
My point is there is risk everywhere.
I personally put a lot of money in BTC, ETH, BNB and SOL for cryptocurrency and I expect a bull run in 2029.
For stocks I reccomend buy and hold stock 4 years because we are both inexperienced and day trading is dangerous, like a real job and mostly losses.
I did careful research and the tech sector scales and prints money relatively easy.
For example ASML is practically world monopoly on machines that make computer chips.
It's too expensive and time consuming to build high end chip factories which is partly why more than 70% worldwide come from Taiwan / TSMC.
Demand for those chips will continue to outgrow production for those in the next 10 years. That's why I invested in ASML, Nvidia, Intel, AMD... Also other tech stocks and AI infrastructure "BOTTLENECKS"

Never, as long as it's not much more profitable to switch to a different way of staking.
I'll support Ethereum for free because it's good for ETH ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯