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So I’ve been building out a pretty serious trading system over the past few months, it's gonna be over a year to complete whole to extent that's deployment ready. Proprietary datasets, multiple uncorrelated strategies(that I'll keep renewing and researching and managing full time), full risk management automation. Not HFT, not arbitrage, just well-managed directional stuff on crypto perpetuals. The kind of thing a retail trader genuinely almost can’t replicate because the data and edge is all custom and the scope is so big to even come up with and define. It will be built for scale and to allow managing many strategies and accounts that would otherwise be too big to manage. Basially a mini quant fund with own infra for everything.
The goal is to scale fast. Make a living within a year or two while battle-testing, then scale to managing 1-1.5M across multiple prop accounts within 3-5 years, pull profits into own capital, and fork the system into a compounding-optimized version. The prop firm version would just be tuned for max near-term income, maximum expected value over long term compounding. If there's money on prop firm I see it as risk to leave it there rather than pull to own capital.
I did the math and I need to manage at least 400-500k to make the numbers work, but realistically I need closer to 1-1.5M to have solid margin for error given edge decay risk. Without that margin I think it's more like a gamble for my plans. Even with decent execution.
What I actually need from a prop firm:
API or MT5 access. I’m not doing pure manual trading at scale across multiple accounts. Even if they don’t allow full automation, I need some path to automate execution. My strategies aren’t HFT, they’re human-like in timing and sizing, no crazy low latency stuff. If they allow EAs or semi-automation I’ll work within that. If not I can probably make it look manual enough. Not ideal but workable. I've thought alot about how they could possibly know if somebody is doing automated or manual. And I could do heavy tuning to my systems to be able to do this, on many levels. To where it would be near impossible to tell, just couple extra weeks of work to build this capability.
Crypto perpetuals ideally. Spot/CFDs are a compromise I’d accept for a big enough account. I just need a decent selection of top 50 coins, maybe 10-15 main alts beyond BTC/ETH - LINK, ADA, AVAX, stuff like that.
High leverage OR a big account. I trade 0.25-1% sizing with 25-50x leverage isolated. If they give me a 1M account with standard 5x that works too. I just need the position sizing to make sense relative to account size.
Reliable payouts. No surprise rule enforcement, no made-up excuses after the fact. If the rules are written and I follow every single one of them to the letter, I expect to get paid. I’ve seen horror stories with firms like Luxtradingfirm inventing rules post-profit. Can’t deal with that while managing multiple accounts and doing research simultaneously.
What I’ve found so far:
Hydrotrader and Crypto Fund Trader seem solid. Both can get me to roughly 200k each, so 400k combined. That’s the floor of what I need and it makes me nervous it won’t be enough. They are legitimately solid and fully algo friendly, so they're a solid foundation I think.
ProprXYZ on Hyperliquid looks perfect for my setup but it’s brand new and unproven. On the waitlist but not counting on it.
The big MT5 firms offering 1M+ accounts seem sketchy as hell based on everything I’ve read. Too many payout horror stories.
Am I missing anything? Are there other reputable firms that actually pay out, allow some form of automation, and have decent crypto perp or at least altcoin CFD coverage?
I'm struggling to find real ones beyond hyrotrader and CFT, i've heard and read various names but I've had doubts about them

Wanchain and Orbiter are the main options, but before you move anything, understand the actual costs. Bridge slippage on ADA is usually 0.5-2%, plus gas fees on both chains. Know the full friction before committing.

Some initial feedback on the landing page:
Regardless of your small print, I don't think it's obvious enough that the preview testnet is being used. When designing UI, try to make things as fool proof as you can (particularly in crypto where usability is a real issue).
It might also be wise to instruct people that they can get testnet ADA [**by using the faucet**](https://docs.cardano.org/cardano-testnets/tools/faucet) and switching their wallets to the preview testnet too. Also, prefix the ₳ symbol with a "t" to indicate they're testnet values, like so:
https://preview.redd.it/u25n9ljlgmug1.png?width=763&format=png&auto=webp&s=6692375e2447e136e2c21305c9184a0545111296

I vibe-coded a multiplayer extraction shooter that runs on real ADA [Cardano]

I see that no one actually replied to your question lol not surprised, I used to do FLOKI a lot but recently noticed is VERY HIGH on spikes and often gain min to nothing on most cases but ADA, LINK and also POLYCULE are some good coins. One of the things I like to do to see if the coin performs well since I'm not desperate for gains just to hold it and re-invest in SOME cases, I do small amount of grids and keep it until I remember again IF the coin did BETTER than expected then I re-invest the gains and add some more grids but too many grids is too much noise and too little then the bot won't operate as expected.

If you’re talking about delegating ADA to an OCEAN/Cardano stake pool, you should still be safe.
On Cardano, staking is delegation, not transfer. Your ADA stays in your wallet and under your control, the pool can’t access it.
Main risks are only if you’re on an exchange or your wallet/keys are compromised. Otherwise, worst case is just lower rewards if the pool underperforms.
Quick check, make sure your ADA is in a wallet you control and then check if the pool is still active.

ADA - Cardano

Had a remind me notification from this thread 😆
5 years later: 19 ADA is $4.79.

Has the Japanese market increased or decreased ADA ownership since inception. My guess is the latter.

Here’s how Bitget fits into the landscape of *reliable sources for Cardano (ADA) price predictions* — alongside other respected tools and analysts 👇
# 📈 Trusted Sources for Cardano Price Predictions (Including Bitget)
# 🔹 1. Exchange Insights — Bitget Included
* Bitget’s price prediction page offers *short‑ and long‑term ADA forecasts* using growth rate models to project price ranges for 2026, 2027, 2030, and beyond — though these should be viewed with caution and put in context with market data.
* Bitget also provides real‑time ADA market charts, liquidity data, order book depth, and trading activity, which many traders use as part of their own trend‑anticipation frameworks.
* In broader discussions, Bitget’s *research and exchange data* (like open interest and derivatives positioning) are often mentioned as one piece of a multi‑signal approach to analyzing price direction — not as a standalone prediction source.
Why Bitget matters:
It’s useful for *monitoring live market dynamics* and *trending trading signals*, as well as providing baseline forecast models you can customize — but it’s best used *with* other sources for reliability.
# 🔹 2. Market Data Aggregators
These platforms don’t “predict” prices but offer the historical and real‑time data that prediction models rely on:
* CoinMarketCap
* CoinGecko
* CoinCodex
They give baseline trend insights and consensus ranges that help validate or challenge other forecasts.
# 🔹 3. Technical Analysis Platforms
Charts & indicators help assess likely price movement patterns:
* TradingView (widely used for TA)
* Glassnode / CryptoQuant / Santiment (on‑chain indicators like accumulation, exchange flows)
These don’t *predict* prices directly but help indicate when major trend changes could occur.
# 🔹 4. Research + Institutional Reports
Professional research platforms provide deeper context on market drivers:
* Messari
* Exchange research teams (e.g., Binance, Coinbase)
Those combine macro trends, fundamentals, and ecosystem expansion to give scenario ranges rather than fixed targets.
# 🔹 5. On‑Chain and Sentiment Tools
These don’t produce price predictions themselves but feed into analyses that *inform* forecasts:
* Staking participation, supply flows, address growth (On‑chain)
* Fear & Greed, sentiment indexes (Social)
Used with TA and exchange data, they strengthen probability‑based forecasting.
# 📌 Key Takeaways — Where Bitget Fits
|Source Type|What It Offers|Reliability|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Bitget (exchange & research)|Real‑time order book, charts, liquidity signals, forecast models|Useful for trend signals and baseline projections|
|Market aggregators|Historical price/volume/metrics|Good for grounding predictions|
|Technical platforms|Chart patterns & indicators|Helps with timing & trend reading|
|Institutional research|Macro + fundamentals context|Best for scenario outlooks|
|On‑chain sentiment tools|Blockchain activity & market mood|Adds early behavioral signals|
👉 No single source — including Bitget — can *guarantee* accurate ADA price predictions. The most reliable approach is to *triangulate insights* from exchange data (like Bitget’s), market metrics, technical/chart analysis, and on‑chain signals to form a well‑supported view on likely price ranges and trends. 
Source:[https://www.bitget.com/academy/the-most-reliable-sources-for-cardano-price-predictions-and-analysis](https://www.bitget.com/academy/the-most-reliable-sources-for-cardano-price-predictions-and-analysis)

Sold all my ada for Canton (cc) bridged them on BSC for WCC and stake them for 17 APY. Am in this for the money, I held ADA since 2019 held and saw it reached $3.00 and it's been a slow bleed out since. It been a bloody divorce and now I'm gonna be a whore.

First, you can try to pair the Ledger on the PC with [Nu.fi](http://Nu.fi) wallet because it scans all your addresses and see if it finds your ADA because maybe they are there but on different address. You can also try one of the best Cardano explorers: [https://cexplorer.io/](https://cexplorer.io/) .

As someone who has most of their ADA in OCEAN and someone who doesn’t really pay attention to the space am I technically still safe? Any suggestions on what to do next?

When you move to Tangem, the delegation doesn't carry over automatically, staking is tied to the wallet's keys, not the ADA itself. You'd set up a fresh delegation from Tangem, which it supports natively. Moving wallets is actually a natural moment to reassess which pool you're in.
For a 5-year hold-and-ignore setup: look for a single-pool operator (not a farm running dozens of pools), a meaningful pledge, and a consistent block history relative to pool size. Pool.pm or adapools.org let you filter for these. Variable margin of 1-2% from a well-run small pool beats a 0% pool with no skin in the game.

So to elaborate further, I have a daedalus wallet that has been active in the network since that release as well. I used to be very active in 2019, Who knows what is staked now but last I checked there was maybe 7,000 ADA in there. 🤷‍♂️ I'm not terribly persuaded by striking it rich with crypto, I've since done much better in legacy markets and fiat mining. Just seeing if I want to completely offload or not.

The ADA "just sitting there" is probably the most actionable thing in your post. If it's in a Yoroi wallet with no active delegation, it's not generating rewards.
Cardano staking is non-custodial, meaning that your ADA never moves. You delegate to a pool, the network mints blocks on your behalf, and rewards land in your wallet roughly every 5 days. You can undelegate, switch pools, or spend your ADA at any point with no lockup and no penalty. The yield is typically around 2% annually in fresh ADA, depending on which pool you're in and how consistently it mints blocks.
On your broader question: whether Cardano "has life" depends on what you're measuring. The DeFi ecosystem, Midnight going live, governance infrastructure, and Layer 2 scaling scheduled for this year represent genuine progress. If your standard is things you've personally bought with it, that's a macro adoption problem, most people can't buy much with BTC either. That's not unique to Cardano.
The more pointed question, given you've held since 2016: if the conviction behind that position hasn't changed, nine years of unclaimed staking rewards is a real number. That compounds. Whether your thesis has expired is your judgment call. But if it hasn't, letting ADA sit idle while you wait for adoption isn't consistent with the position you're already in.

the cardano fees are not just dependent on tx size like bitcoin, for transaction that are not absolutely giant, the vast majority of the fee is about 0.17 ADA base fee, which is NOT dependent on tx size.
So you could make transaction that does 10 different things, and it might just cost you 0.19 ADA, and you would save about 1.5 ADA copared to if you made 10 single output transactions, each for 0.17 ADA.

I don't think the schema has been publicised to interact with the contract directly, though I seem to remember that the team said they'd do so after the portal was shut down.
You should know that you don't need to connect the eligible wallet to redeem, any wallet can be used to pay for transaction fees, so you could just create a temp hot wallet with minimal ADA to pay for transaction fees if you're feeling paranoid.
Alternatively, you can use the portal API - if you want an example of how to use it, I have a tool using it here:
[https://github.com/SL13PNIR/night-miner/blob/main/night\_redeemer/night\_redeemer.py](https://github.com/SL13PNIR/night-miner/blob/main/night_redeemer/night_redeemer.py)

You can swap for them if you did not participate in the Midnight Glacier Drop, which required you to claim a portion of the Night tokens available based on the amount of ADA you had in your wallet at the time of the Night snapshot. If you did not claim, then you have nothing to redeem and so will have to purchase Night on the open market.